Gun Control & RKBA

jonthebru

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68. well regulated,

Sun Aug 12, 2012, 06:53 PM

Aug 2012

The second amendment: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

That says nothing about crazy frickin' lunatics owning thousands of rounds of ammunition and the firearms to deliver them killing large numbers of innocent people just because they are having a bad day.
Close the loopholes and fix the frickin' problem already.

Letting any maniac who has money buy a firearm is not "necessary to the security of a free state." In fact its the antithesis of that concept.

If our founders who wrote this magnificent document knew how screwed up the interpretation of this amendment has become they would have written it more concisely. Its up to us to do the right thing.

Frankly, it shows the selfishness and immaturity of our leaders and our national discourse.

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Crybabies Favor Gun Control [View all] rDigital Aug 2012 OP

What's your explanation for gun owners who support gun control? Fridays Child Aug 2012 #1

That depends on what kind of gun control they champion. rDigital Aug 2012 #2

OK then, jonthebru Aug 2012 #66

Agreed. For whatever reason it seems like the ATF never goes after denied NICS purchasers. rDigital Aug 2012 #71

I'm a gun owner and I support most of our current gun laws. spin Aug 2012 #8

corpses can cry? who knew except the gun crowd lol nt msongs Aug 2012 #2

Here's my take shadowrider Aug 2012 #4

Right wing anti-control nuts and safeinOhio Aug 2012 #5

Projection bias rDigital Aug 2012 #6

Ted IS a spokesperson for and safeinOhio Aug 2012 #11

Cool story, bro. rDigital Aug 2012 #12

But you speak for people who wish not to live in fear of gun nuts? Arctic Dave Aug 2012 #52

Every cause is going to have it's goofballs. That doesn't make the cause invalid by default. nt rDigital Aug 2012 #72

Define anti! Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #13

Perhaps warp drive will be developed soon and you will get your wish. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #16

I already live in that world. I made my wish come true. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #25

So... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #29

I choose my environment for starters. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #35

You own nothing that can be replaced. Good. How about the guy who earns his living out shadowrider Aug 2012 #36

I used to be that guy. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #50

Property generally isn't worth using deadly force over rDigital Aug 2012 #77

Couldn't agree more. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #82

As a type one diabetic for 30 years and on an insulin pump for the past 4 years, you can live rl6214 Aug 2012 #83

There's on less thing I guess. rDigital Aug 2012 #84

By "on the ocean"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #41

No, I mean on a vessel either at sea or at anchor, depending on the day and the whim. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #51

What do you... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #53

VZ Wireless Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #56

Cool discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #58

Depends on location. Between 10 to 50 miles. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #61

a friend was staying... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #64

Shit can still happen. jonthebru Aug 2012 #67

What if some lunatic Jenoch Aug 2012 #100

If I thought there was any likeliehood of being attacked I would have a shotgun on board Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #103

"I'm not against defending one's home... I oppose...concealed carry without good cause." bad sofa king Sep 2012 #104

The right to self defense is a basic human right. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #105

you're all over the road here. bad sofa king Sep 2012 #106

To be fair: The S. Tack is consistent. Every thread I've seen rDigital Sep 2012 #107

Let me clarify my position. Nothing ambivalent about it. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #109

One never knows if one will or will not need a firearm for self defense bad sofa king Sep 2012 #113

So you live in a place where if law enforcement shows up, TPaine7 Aug 2012 #45

Unfortunately, you are correct. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #47

I want to live in that world too. rDigital Aug 2012 #20

It isn't the right that bothers me, but the practice. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #26

I want to live in a world where gejohnston Aug 2012 #21

How do you explain the largest group of voters safeinOhio Aug 2012 #14

because anti gun politicians are the only choice in the big cities gejohnston Aug 2012 #15

Your post is Jenoch Aug 2012 #18

not social conservative nut cases gejohnston Aug 2012 #19

Mayor Bloomberg is not a right winger? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #24

The stop and frisk policy was a mistake. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #38

Nonsense. The unconstitutional of the police to intimidate and humiliate ordinary Americans AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #43

You sound very extreme and quite emotional. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #49

so he isn't homophobic gejohnston Aug 2012 #63

He sure as hell Jenoch Aug 2012 #75

it is the urban platform gejohnston Aug 2012 #76

Bloomberg has switched parties a couple of times. Independent right now Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #59

Bloomberg who has a policy of having the police stop-and-frisk ordinary Americans who have neither AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #62

but...but.....gunz KiLL PeOPle! ileus Aug 2012 #7

Wrong! People who carry guns kill people. They use the guns to do the killing. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #39

But a guns intended purpose is to save lives... ileus Aug 2012 #42

Correct. You are deluded in thinking the intended purpose is to save lives Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #44

That's like saying that those who buy fire extinguishers for their home prior to having a fire, AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #65

Right. We see people carrying fire extinguishers all over the place. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #79

That's like saying that those who buy fire extinguishers for their homes are not using AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #80

Methinks thou art very confused Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #81

"High profile gun control advocates who hire armed security are, in my opinion, Jenoch Aug 2012 #9

Like this? rDigital Aug 2012 #10

Hey, it's Hoyt's Dream Team! n/t PavePusher Aug 2012 #17

Irrational fear of others drives gun culture /nt Bragi Aug 2012 #22

Irrational fear of an inatimate object drives the anti-gun culture n/t shadowrider Aug 2012 #23

fucking BULLSHIT Skittles Aug 2012 #27

Heh shadowrider Aug 2012 #31

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight Skittles Aug 2012 #54

Struck a nerve, huh? Equate Aug 2012 #74

100% correct Common Sense Party Aug 2012 #57

well regulated, jonthebru Aug 2012 #68

Hoplophobia is the name of the game. Antis will do anything to try and make it contagious. Nt rDigital Aug 2012 #99

No, we can live without our false sense of phallic power.... Deep13 Aug 2012 #28

Let me tell you something. My daughter was fucking RAPED BY THAT FALSE SENSE OF PHALLIC shadowrider Aug 2012 #32

My post was in response to the OP's dickish suggestion. Deep13 Aug 2012 #33

I said she carries. It wasn't in the home, it was elsewhere. Don't you dare try to say she shadowrider Aug 2012 #34

Your emotions have clouded your judgment. Deep13 Aug 2012 #37

Lecturing again? Have you a family member that's been through it? I doubt it. shadowrider Aug 2012 #40

This is why Charles Bronson as Paul Kersey is so compelling. Loudly Aug 2012 #78

Sounds like you were the type of prosecutor.... WinniSkipper Sep 2012 #111

I would say... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #30

Then, I'm a crybaby who can leave my home daily without a gun. Hoyt Aug 2012 #55

:) discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #60

Please provide a link to a definition of your (made up) term "gun cultists" rl6214 Aug 2012 #85

It's what this phone does to term "gun culture." I think phone is correct. Hoyt Aug 2012 #86

Your definition of "gun culture" is made up as well rl6214 Aug 2012 #96

You are right, "culture" is not apt description for strapping gun on before venturing out. Hoyt Aug 2012 #97

Arms race meanit Aug 2012 #46

Gun access isn't unfettered Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #48

Well regulated, jonthebru Aug 2012 #69

It's written exactly how it's intended, but allow me to assist. rDigital Aug 2012 #73

Agreed... nothin' but a bunch of whining crybabies. OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #70

I would have thought that some whiny-assed... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #87

and who is committing these drive bys? gejohnston Aug 2012 #88

That didn't take long. The point I suspect I will have to keep... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #89

Since I live in the boonies gejohnston Aug 2012 #90

Who's scapegoating you for what? Aside from... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #91

Appeal to emotion fallacy. Next time bring an argument. nt rDigital Aug 2012 #92

Appeal to dumbassery-- I wasn't making an argument, merely... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #94

Just pointing out the obvious, if you're offended I guess that's a plus or something. ; ) rDigital Aug 2012 #98

your reading skills suck gejohnston Aug 2012 #93

Speaking of reading skills-- who's talking about a guy in Montana? This is... TreasonousBastard Aug 2012 #95

Nice way to demonize marijuana, and innocent pot smokers. Ashgrey77 Sep 2012 #108

you missed point gejohnston Sep 2012 #110

if it wasn't drugs, it would be something else. bad sofa king Sep 2012 #115

Police training and mental screenings are completely effective. xxenderwigginxx Aug 2012 #101

Yep, the Norway Shooter rDigital Sep 2012 #102

It'll be nice when psychology advances to the state 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #112

wasn't the fort hood shooter a psychiatrist? bad sofa king Sep 2012 #114