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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
59. not arming everyone
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 07:47 PM
Aug 2012

that is something that is up to the individual situation and that individual. Personally, I would support amending the 1968 Gun Control Act to include those convicted of some violent misdemeanors (right now only domestic abuse is) and and animal cruelty (even as juveniles) being defined as "prohibited persons" under the act.
Of course firearms are not the only viable options. a good pepper spray works reasonably well. Of course neither is perfect or ideal. The Star Trek phaser on stun is yet to be developed.
I would prefer a situation where it would be legal but simply not customary because people feel safe enough like Vermont for example or the Czech Republic (like the part of Wyoming I grew up in, we all had guns, but they mostly were unloaded at home, didn't open carry although legal, didn't lock the doors) to, and have a strong social safety net to prevent problems. You might find this ironic, but that is how the "wild west" actually was. Yeah, Dodge City and a few places had drunken cowboys during cattle drives. Once the drovers sobered up and went back to Texas, Dodge went back to being Mayberry.

When I was a kid, one of my classmates did shoot his step-dad. Step dad was in a drunken rage and was beating the kid's mother to death, kid got one of her guns and abruptly ended the violence. It was ruled justifiable by the family court judge (him being a minor in 1968), even under Wyoming's duty to retreat law, (did not have a castle doctrine then, the one now is narrow and specific and nothing like Florida's or California's). That is not to say he grew up unscathed. You won't see him a gun show, but you won't see him at a Brady Campaign gala either.

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I diaried this at Kos a few weeks ago arendt Aug 2012 #1
That what you said was patently false does not surprise me ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #5
Well, you get points for responding to the economics. arendt Aug 2012 #27
get a .22 gejohnston Aug 2012 #40
I see it a bit differently Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #43
gun owners in the us are certainly repressed. there are not samsingh Aug 2012 #33
you have the prices right but one thing. gejohnston Aug 2012 #6
i think the poster was referring to the research that the poster conducted. samsingh Aug 2012 #34
A very interesting read Kaleva Aug 2012 #10
Yeah. I'm trying to address that, one post at a time... arendt Aug 2012 #28
wait one more thing gejohnston Aug 2012 #11
Do you have a clue about history? arendt Aug 2012 #18
Actually I do know history gejohnston Aug 2012 #29
Its fascinating to watch people not connect dots... arendt Aug 2012 #30
aww but gejohnston Aug 2012 #31
Now that is interesting (seriously) arendt Aug 2012 #32
SLC gejohnston Aug 2012 #39
Very interesting. Thank you. n/t arendt Aug 2012 #42
Disgusting nonsense rDigital Aug 2012 #16
You got nothing, but boilerplate. arendt Aug 2012 #19
Ok rDigital Aug 2012 #44
About what I expected from a hardcore ideologue. arendt Aug 2012 #47
I give you points for trying, arendt Skittles Aug 2012 #51
unfortunately, gejohnston Aug 2012 #57
The district court of DC, a majority opinion by the fascist Scalia, and that crumb Rehnquist arendt Aug 2012 #58
not arming everyone gejohnston Aug 2012 #59
A very interesting post. arendt Aug 2012 #61
Fitting. rDigital Aug 2012 #64
that is not how it works in Canada gejohnston Aug 2012 #66
Arm an abused child against their parents? Your straw man is showing. nt rDigital Aug 2012 #63
this is a good post. samsingh Aug 2012 #35
Given our current trajectory re: things like health care or xchrom Aug 2012 #2
Right to own is not quite the same as the right to have ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #3
+1 This was pretty much my response too aikoaiko Aug 2012 #4
not enough guns out there? samsingh Aug 2012 #36
I'm sure many people would like to increase collections. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #41
not against legal - but against a lack of controls and common sense samsingh Aug 2012 #45
I'm willing to bet your "lack of controls and common sense" don't match up with mine. shadowrider Aug 2012 #55
Right on the money. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #7
easy choice gejohnston Aug 2012 #8
I can't afford cable or satellite. Netflix at $7.99 a month is the best I can do. Kaleva Aug 2012 #9
That's a rough budget, if you're rDigital Aug 2012 #13
I own two Mosin Nagant 91/30s Kaleva Aug 2012 #14
Still, that's a lot of self control being able to rDigital Aug 2012 #15
Or maybe, if they are lucky, crappy health insurance. arendt Aug 2012 #22
That would be a radical interpretation of what I wrote. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #56
food and health care are unimportant samsingh Aug 2012 #37
We won't mention the gun manufacturers scare tactics... arendt Aug 2012 #20
agreed samsingh Aug 2012 #38
So, your OK with the GOP version of healthcare. arendt Aug 2012 #23
Sorry, "requirement", not "right" n/t arendt Aug 2012 #24
The 'right' to own arms is Jenoch Aug 2012 #12
A right you simply cannøt afford is not a right. It is a cruel joke. arendt Aug 2012 #21
The construction of the BoR... Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #50
Poll taxes were deemed unconsttutional Kaleva Aug 2012 #53
No dice Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #67
Your comment Kaleva Aug 2012 #69
Hey, cool! Civility is fun! Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #70
Where is health insurance Jenoch Aug 2012 #65
I Want To See The Ad Campaign For Such A Proposal. Paladin Aug 2012 #17
It's already been done - the Arm the Homeless campaign. Results were hilarious. slackmaster Aug 2012 #26
Thanks, Slack. Too Bad It's Not A Hoax, Here........(nt) Paladin Aug 2012 #68
The right to own something doesn't mean a right to have someone else pay for it slackmaster Aug 2012 #25
Some prices and costs Kaleva Aug 2012 #46
thanks. most useful. arendt Aug 2012 #48
There is stupid, and there is stoopid. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #49
One of my favorite movies is "Hobo With A Shotgun" gordianot Aug 2012 #52
It is a negative right. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #54
Yet the arguement is often made that guns are needed for protection of family, home and self. Kaleva Aug 2012 #60
There is no constitutional obligation to offer free 911 service. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #62
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