Gun Control & RKBA

pa28

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3. Eh. I'm more of a fan of the bill of rights in general.

Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:28 AM

Aug 2012

The author of the video duplicated this in different places and that was the really interesting part. In some places he was totally ignored and in others he wound up facing something like a military response.

I posted this because of the cop. He got it just right IMO.

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Well. A guy decided to do an open carry experiment in my town. [View all] pa28 Aug 2012 OP

Do you support this shit-stirring? n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #1

Eh. I'm more of a fan of the bill of rights in general. pa28 Aug 2012 #3

The cop thinks he's being a jackass. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #5

Unless a criminal action is imminent or in progress, the officers' opinion is irrelevent/immaterial. PavePusher Aug 2012 #110

Being jackass isn't against the law, thankfully. Common Sense Party Aug 2012 #121

I am unequivocal about gun rights... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #10

RE: I am unequivocal about gun rights Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #11

When I carry in the field... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #14

Great answer to safeinOhio Aug 2012 #17

There is nothing unsafe about a chambered round in a slung AR pattern rifle. Callisto32 Aug 2012 #33

Why was my question dumb? Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #44

If there isn't one in the pipe, what the hell's the point? Callisto32 Aug 2012 #95

Ummm, that was kinda my point. Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #97

HAHA Callisto32 Aug 2012 #127

Concur ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #100

I agree 100%. Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #102

which single action revolver do you have? gejohnston Aug 2012 #32

Ruger New Vaquero (blued) in .357 -- a pair with consecutive serial numbers :-) holdencaufield Aug 2012 #107

Not being loaded means that an immediate threat can not be dealt with in a timely manner. PavePusher Aug 2012 #109

When you say "In the field" I assume you mean hunting. Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #43

The post is full of win. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #48

Firstly, there is a difference between HALO141 Aug 2012 #69

I don't prepare my weapon to fire until I have a target identified. It's proper safety. RegieRocker Aug 2012 #77

I've been hunting for forty years, pipoman Aug 2012 #116

How do you know he's legal and not another Holmes, Stawicki, Zimmerman, Loughner, etc. Hoyt Aug 2012 #36

Re: How do you know he's legal Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #45

Lawfully and peacefully exercising Constitutional Rights... PavePusher Aug 2012 #59

Exactly Hoyt! HERVEPA Aug 2012 #73

Then you're just as dangerous as the ones you're accusing. RegieRocker Aug 2012 #78

Open carry =/= "brandishing" in law or in a dictionary. PavePusher Aug 2012 #57

I don't think Missycim Aug 2012 #7

Ever hear of using an apostrophe in the three places it's needed in your post? HERVEPA Aug 2012 #74

When you stop telling me what I can own gun wise Missycim Aug 2012 #75

You missed the hyphen between gun and wise. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #79

and you missed the point. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #108

No I didn't. I just have a bit more respect for people with some knowledge of the language. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #112

oh never mind - you are not worth it Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #113

LOL pipoman Aug 2012 #119

I have more respect for those that have the intellectual RegieRocker Aug 2012 #132

Could you provide a definition that can distinguish between defending your rights 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #49

No one calls the police about a protest sign fearing for the public safety. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #50

Actually people do call the police on protesters all the time 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #51

You can spin all you want: the bottom-line is this guy is a shit-stirring nut. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #52

Ah one of those "I know it when I see it" definitions 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #53

Walking around the streets with a loaded assault weapon? ellisonz Aug 2012 #54

So provide your definition for shit-stirring 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #55

"assault weapon"? He certainly didn't seem to assault anyone with anything. PavePusher Aug 2012 #90

Nope. He is a Patriot RegieRocker Aug 2012 #83

The corporations do RegieRocker Aug 2012 #81

Corporations aren't people. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #115

Haha, HAHAHA!! eqfan592 Aug 2012 #124

A guy did it with an AR-15 in SoCal too Serve The Servants Aug 2012 #2

Yeah we have open carry in my state too and we can even open carry in our vehicles indie9197 Aug 2012 #4

Sure RegieRocker Aug 2012 #84

That cop has had excellent training in how to deal with nut jobs. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #6

How is he being a nut job if Missycim Aug 2012 #8

Complete and utter lack of respect for the feelings of his fellow citizens Nostradammit Aug 2012 #9

I don't like this post and I think you should delete it Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #12

Sterling example of a false equivalency Nostradammit Aug 2012 #13

How, exactly? HALO141 Aug 2012 #92

ok when they have flamboyant gay pride Missycim Aug 2012 #15

Do you think people fear for their lives when a gay parade passes by? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #16

People need to Missycim Aug 2012 #18

People are afraid of me? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #19

as you well know Missycim Aug 2012 #20

I own guns. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #21

Seek help please Missycim Aug 2012 #23

With all respect to Master Yoda... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #24

Well just carrying a Missycim Aug 2012 #25

If his liberty was being threatened... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #27

I can't agree Missycim Aug 2012 #31

That's the first time... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #35

Well I am sorry for Missycim Aug 2012 #37

You've contradicted yourself several times in that post. PavePusher Aug 2012 #61

What does it mean... HERVEPA Aug 2012 #76

All of you who thinks this is wrong in any fashion RegieRocker Aug 2012 #86

LOL RegieRocker Aug 2012 #85

irrational fear is what drives people to open carry or CCW frylock Aug 2012 #94

depends on the situation gejohnston Aug 2012 #96

Not always, and certainly not where I live ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #106

Why do you assume people fear for their lives? Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #46

Yes some do atreides1 Aug 2012 #58

How many people in this country have been killed by gay pride parades? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #111

Counting being run over by an out of control float? NT holdencaufield Aug 2012 #114

Sure, throw all those in the total. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #117

I imagine his adrenaline is making it difficult to maintain his train of thought and appear composed trouble.smith Aug 2012 #126

You are right, he is not a nutjob, he is an asshole. CBGLuthier Aug 2012 #28

Remember those words Missycim Aug 2012 #30

I'm glad you brought up OWS... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #39

Well i agree Missycim Aug 2012 #40

I've never questioned the concept of using your right to use and bear arms... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #41

"confronting cops"? PavePusher Aug 2012 #63

others a risk RegieRocker Aug 2012 #87

I am going to go with Holden Caufield on this one. Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #47

So, peaceful, lawful exercise of Constitutional RIghts now equals "be(ing) a dick"? PavePusher Aug 2012 #62

Public demonstrations, even those within the bounds of the law, are often inconvenient. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #22

Narcissism meets Rights zealot randr Aug 2012 #26

I'M HERE I CARRY GUNS, GET USED TO IT! Callisto32 Aug 2012 #34

Nope. Self-defense, in all states, requires more than "feeling" threatened. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #38

The law has many nuances randr Aug 2012 #42

A slung or holstered weapon does not equal "immediate threat".... PavePusher Aug 2012 #66

My point exactly randr Aug 2012 #93

I legally carry a loaded gun every day. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #68

The courts have stated that mere presence of a weapon does not constitute an automatic threat. PavePusher Aug 2012 #67

On a personal note... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #29

Yep. It's a nice forgiving airplane. pa28 Aug 2012 #98

I wonder if simarly courtesy would have been extended to him if he were black, Hispanic or Arab bluestateguy Aug 2012 #56

they did an experiment like this in Florida - a black kid carried Skittles KurtNYC Aug 2012 #60

Just because you can Gin Aug 2012 #65

What a jerk. He is asking for trouble. Just because something appleannie1 Aug 2012 #64

Good job by the cops in not telling this asshole what they really think of what he's doing directly HERVEPA Aug 2012 #70

The policeman is a very well spoken and polite. Impressive. The guy with the gun is a jerk. AlinPA Aug 2012 #71

I just saw this (imo) very reasoned video about open carry Union Scribe Aug 2012 #72

More B.S. sorry but true RegieRocker Aug 2012 #88

Guy is bullshit and trying to cause trouble - these nra people are nuts in your face with danger 2Design Aug 2012 #80

Ok, so I'm at the movies, and I have a conceal and carry lisence ... and then you arrive JoePhilly Aug 2012 #82

Gets confusing doesn't it RegieRocker Aug 2012 #89

Not really. Not unless you're trying to make it so. eqfan592 Aug 2012 #125

Lol joephilly RegieRocker Aug 2012 #130

What's the big deal? Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #91

So when I see a guy holding his gun at a movie JoePhilly Aug 2012 #101

Of course not. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #103

No one said anything about anyone "holding" a gun Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #118

Most states do not issue open carry liscenses, so I'm going to assume they don't have one. Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #104

A training class would help you with these questions. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #105

How many training classes am I required to take? JoePhilly Aug 2012 #122

Training always has value. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #123

The value of training is obvious ... the requirement to have it tends to be missing. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #128

That is certainly possible, but ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #129

So in a mobvie theater, in the dark, with some people dresseed up in costume ... people JoePhilly Aug 2012 #136

You are thinking in the right directions. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #146

If you were to actually think about it.... PavePusher Aug 2012 #134

In the situation I described, there was no "bad guy". Just a couple of untrained ... JoePhilly Aug 2012 #135

That's a pretty scary scenario, but I don't recall reading of any cases where it actually happened petronius Aug 2012 #137

We don't have everyone armed sufficiently yet. But if we work hard enough ... JoePhilly Aug 2012 #138

IOW: "It's bound to happen Real Soon Now. Just you wait and see!" friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #143

Yeah, sure. Whutevah. n/t PavePusher Aug 2012 #141

Eh, more of the same "friendly fire" horseshit they've been peddling for years... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #144

Actually, s/he seems to be advocating pulling some vile cross of a 1984/Zimmerman. PavePusher Aug 2012 #145

In your scenario, ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #147

The people who run the theater are within their property rights to ask you to leave AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #120

In this case they have a right to make you leave RegieRocker Aug 2012 #131

And when they approach you and ask you to leave, should they be concerned for JoePhilly Aug 2012 #139

They RegieRocker Aug 2012 #140

If they genuinely fear for their safety, they can call the police and ask THEM AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #142

What's an "open carry licence"? PavePusher Aug 2012 #133