Gun Control & RKBA

randr

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93. My point exactly

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Wed Aug 15, 2012, 03:34 PM

Aug 2012

Not every one knows what they are doing.

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Well. A guy decided to do an open carry experiment in my town. [View all] pa28 Aug 2012 OP

Do you support this shit-stirring? n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #1

Eh. I'm more of a fan of the bill of rights in general. pa28 Aug 2012 #3

The cop thinks he's being a jackass. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #5

Unless a criminal action is imminent or in progress, the officers' opinion is irrelevent/immaterial. PavePusher Aug 2012 #110

Being jackass isn't against the law, thankfully. Common Sense Party Aug 2012 #121

I am unequivocal about gun rights... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #10

RE: I am unequivocal about gun rights Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #11

When I carry in the field... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #14

Great answer to safeinOhio Aug 2012 #17

There is nothing unsafe about a chambered round in a slung AR pattern rifle. Callisto32 Aug 2012 #33

Why was my question dumb? Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #44

If there isn't one in the pipe, what the hell's the point? Callisto32 Aug 2012 #95

Ummm, that was kinda my point. Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #97

HAHA Callisto32 Aug 2012 #127

Concur ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #100

I agree 100%. Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #102

which single action revolver do you have? gejohnston Aug 2012 #32

Ruger New Vaquero (blued) in .357 -- a pair with consecutive serial numbers :-) holdencaufield Aug 2012 #107

Not being loaded means that an immediate threat can not be dealt with in a timely manner. PavePusher Aug 2012 #109

When you say "In the field" I assume you mean hunting. Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #43

The post is full of win. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #48

Firstly, there is a difference between HALO141 Aug 2012 #69

I don't prepare my weapon to fire until I have a target identified. It's proper safety. RegieRocker Aug 2012 #77

I've been hunting for forty years, pipoman Aug 2012 #116

How do you know he's legal and not another Holmes, Stawicki, Zimmerman, Loughner, etc. Hoyt Aug 2012 #36

Re: How do you know he's legal Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #45

Lawfully and peacefully exercising Constitutional Rights... PavePusher Aug 2012 #59

Exactly Hoyt! HERVEPA Aug 2012 #73

Then you're just as dangerous as the ones you're accusing. RegieRocker Aug 2012 #78

Open carry =/= "brandishing" in law or in a dictionary. PavePusher Aug 2012 #57

I don't think Missycim Aug 2012 #7

Ever hear of using an apostrophe in the three places it's needed in your post? HERVEPA Aug 2012 #74

When you stop telling me what I can own gun wise Missycim Aug 2012 #75

You missed the hyphen between gun and wise. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #79

and you missed the point. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #108

No I didn't. I just have a bit more respect for people with some knowledge of the language. HERVEPA Aug 2012 #112

oh never mind - you are not worth it Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #113

LOL pipoman Aug 2012 #119

I have more respect for those that have the intellectual RegieRocker Aug 2012 #132

Could you provide a definition that can distinguish between defending your rights 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #49

No one calls the police about a protest sign fearing for the public safety. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #50

Actually people do call the police on protesters all the time 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #51

You can spin all you want: the bottom-line is this guy is a shit-stirring nut. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #52

Ah one of those "I know it when I see it" definitions 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #53

Walking around the streets with a loaded assault weapon? ellisonz Aug 2012 #54

So provide your definition for shit-stirring 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #55

"assault weapon"? He certainly didn't seem to assault anyone with anything. PavePusher Aug 2012 #90

Nope. He is a Patriot RegieRocker Aug 2012 #83

The corporations do RegieRocker Aug 2012 #81

Corporations aren't people. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #115

Haha, HAHAHA!! eqfan592 Aug 2012 #124

A guy did it with an AR-15 in SoCal too Serve The Servants Aug 2012 #2

Yeah we have open carry in my state too and we can even open carry in our vehicles indie9197 Aug 2012 #4

Sure RegieRocker Aug 2012 #84

That cop has had excellent training in how to deal with nut jobs. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #6

How is he being a nut job if Missycim Aug 2012 #8

Complete and utter lack of respect for the feelings of his fellow citizens Nostradammit Aug 2012 #9

I don't like this post and I think you should delete it Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #12

Sterling example of a false equivalency Nostradammit Aug 2012 #13

How, exactly? HALO141 Aug 2012 #92

ok when they have flamboyant gay pride Missycim Aug 2012 #15

Do you think people fear for their lives when a gay parade passes by? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #16

People need to Missycim Aug 2012 #18

People are afraid of me? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #19

as you well know Missycim Aug 2012 #20

I own guns. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #21

Seek help please Missycim Aug 2012 #23

With all respect to Master Yoda... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #24

Well just carrying a Missycim Aug 2012 #25

If his liberty was being threatened... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #27

I can't agree Missycim Aug 2012 #31

That's the first time... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #35

Well I am sorry for Missycim Aug 2012 #37

You've contradicted yourself several times in that post. PavePusher Aug 2012 #61

What does it mean... HERVEPA Aug 2012 #76

All of you who thinks this is wrong in any fashion RegieRocker Aug 2012 #86

LOL RegieRocker Aug 2012 #85

irrational fear is what drives people to open carry or CCW frylock Aug 2012 #94

depends on the situation gejohnston Aug 2012 #96

Not always, and certainly not where I live ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #106

Why do you assume people fear for their lives? Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #46

Yes some do atreides1 Aug 2012 #58

How many people in this country have been killed by gay pride parades? Nostradammit Aug 2012 #111

Counting being run over by an out of control float? NT holdencaufield Aug 2012 #114

Sure, throw all those in the total. Nostradammit Aug 2012 #117

I imagine his adrenaline is making it difficult to maintain his train of thought and appear composed trouble.smith Aug 2012 #126

You are right, he is not a nutjob, he is an asshole. CBGLuthier Aug 2012 #28

Remember those words Missycim Aug 2012 #30

I'm glad you brought up OWS... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #39

Well i agree Missycim Aug 2012 #40

I've never questioned the concept of using your right to use and bear arms... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #41

"confronting cops"? PavePusher Aug 2012 #63

others a risk RegieRocker Aug 2012 #87

I am going to go with Holden Caufield on this one. Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #47

So, peaceful, lawful exercise of Constitutional RIghts now equals "be(ing) a dick"? PavePusher Aug 2012 #62

Public demonstrations, even those within the bounds of the law, are often inconvenient. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #22

Narcissism meets Rights zealot randr Aug 2012 #26

I'M HERE I CARRY GUNS, GET USED TO IT! Callisto32 Aug 2012 #34

Nope. Self-defense, in all states, requires more than "feeling" threatened. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #38

The law has many nuances randr Aug 2012 #42

A slung or holstered weapon does not equal "immediate threat".... PavePusher Aug 2012 #66

My point exactly randr Aug 2012 #93

I legally carry a loaded gun every day. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #68

The courts have stated that mere presence of a weapon does not constitute an automatic threat. PavePusher Aug 2012 #67

On a personal note... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #29

Yep. It's a nice forgiving airplane. pa28 Aug 2012 #98

I wonder if simarly courtesy would have been extended to him if he were black, Hispanic or Arab bluestateguy Aug 2012 #56

they did an experiment like this in Florida - a black kid carried Skittles KurtNYC Aug 2012 #60

Just because you can Gin Aug 2012 #65

What a jerk. He is asking for trouble. Just because something appleannie1 Aug 2012 #64

Good job by the cops in not telling this asshole what they really think of what he's doing directly HERVEPA Aug 2012 #70

The policeman is a very well spoken and polite. Impressive. The guy with the gun is a jerk. AlinPA Aug 2012 #71

I just saw this (imo) very reasoned video about open carry Union Scribe Aug 2012 #72

More B.S. sorry but true RegieRocker Aug 2012 #88

Guy is bullshit and trying to cause trouble - these nra people are nuts in your face with danger 2Design Aug 2012 #80

Ok, so I'm at the movies, and I have a conceal and carry lisence ... and then you arrive JoePhilly Aug 2012 #82

Gets confusing doesn't it RegieRocker Aug 2012 #89

Not really. Not unless you're trying to make it so. eqfan592 Aug 2012 #125

Lol joephilly RegieRocker Aug 2012 #130

What's the big deal? Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #91

So when I see a guy holding his gun at a movie JoePhilly Aug 2012 #101

Of course not. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #103

No one said anything about anyone "holding" a gun Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #118

Most states do not issue open carry liscenses, so I'm going to assume they don't have one. Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #104

A training class would help you with these questions. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #105

How many training classes am I required to take? JoePhilly Aug 2012 #122

Training always has value. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #123

The value of training is obvious ... the requirement to have it tends to be missing. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #128

That is certainly possible, but ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #129

So in a mobvie theater, in the dark, with some people dresseed up in costume ... people JoePhilly Aug 2012 #136

You are thinking in the right directions. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #146

If you were to actually think about it.... PavePusher Aug 2012 #134

In the situation I described, there was no "bad guy". Just a couple of untrained ... JoePhilly Aug 2012 #135

That's a pretty scary scenario, but I don't recall reading of any cases where it actually happened petronius Aug 2012 #137

We don't have everyone armed sufficiently yet. But if we work hard enough ... JoePhilly Aug 2012 #138

IOW: "It's bound to happen Real Soon Now. Just you wait and see!" friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #143

Yeah, sure. Whutevah. n/t PavePusher Aug 2012 #141

Eh, more of the same "friendly fire" horseshit they've been peddling for years... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #144

Actually, s/he seems to be advocating pulling some vile cross of a 1984/Zimmerman. PavePusher Aug 2012 #145

In your scenario, ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #147

The people who run the theater are within their property rights to ask you to leave AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #120

In this case they have a right to make you leave RegieRocker Aug 2012 #131

And when they approach you and ask you to leave, should they be concerned for JoePhilly Aug 2012 #139

They RegieRocker Aug 2012 #140

If they genuinely fear for their safety, they can call the police and ask THEM AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #142

What's an "open carry licence"? PavePusher Aug 2012 #133