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In reply to the discussion: George Zimmerman's attorneys won't use "stand your ground" defense [View all]1. In a self-defense scenario, the life of the attacker and the life of the intended victim are not equivalent
I agree. That's why it's so important that the increase can't be explained by justifiable homicides.
2. If the tool you're using can't measure the benefits, pretending that means there are no benefits is not legitimate
The tool can measure the benefits very well. The benefits would show up as less murders. The costs would show up as more murders. Pretty simple, you don't need to do any fancy accounting. Just count how many innocent people die.
3. Using a biased and/or unqualified estimator is likely to result in a bogus estimate
Right, but there is no evidence the estimator is biased and/or unqualified, and but even if you assume that the police reports grossly underestimate the number of justifiable homicides, you still find a net increase in murders.
4. "Back-of-the-envelope calculations"
Unlike you, an actual scientist reading the paper would judge by the content, rather than using this phrase as an excuse to dismiss the evidence.
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It wasn't due to stand your ground, it was due to incompetence or political intrigue.
TPaine7
Aug 2012
#5
Nobody is surprised that you can't tell the difference between science and talking points.
DanTex
Aug 2012
#29
Nobody is surprised that you pretend to tell the difference to make yourself feel good.
gejohnston
Aug 2012
#30
I not only empathized the important part of the conclusion but I underlined it ...
spin
Aug 2012
#41
If the numbers were right in the report then why did the authors use weasel words ...
spin
Aug 2012
#52
I think he could get around that. The dispatcher's suggestion does not carry the force of law.
TPaine7
Aug 2012
#33
It's already been used. Zman initially walked and would have remained uncharged without protests.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#47
Yes it did. Besides, you gun cultists will always claim they felt threatened by unarmed teenager --
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#49
Uncle Sam also promised me that I would have free medical care for the rest of my life ...
spin
Aug 2012
#67
Spin, it must be tough going through life -- with your gun -- thinking of ways to distrust people.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#59