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In reply to the discussion: Well. A guy decided to do an open carry experiment in my town. [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)96. depends on the situation
one is why and when someone is open carrying. When I go backpacking when I go back to Wyoming, I OC a .22 pistol because:
just because. As criminologist James Wright described:
In my journey through this alien turf, I came upon what are called "trail guns" or "pack guns." These are handguns carried outdoors, in the woods or the wilds, for no particular reason except to have a gun available "just in case" one encounters unfriendly fauna,
or gets lost and needs small game for food, or is injured and needs to signal for help. The more I read about trail guns, the more it
seemed that people who spend a lot of time alone in the wilds, in isolated and out-of-the-way places, are probably being pretty sensible in carrying these weapons.
http://www.nationalaffairs.com/doclib/20080708_1988912secondthoughtsaboutguncontroljamesdwright.pdf
I don't in Florida because it is not legal unless you are hunting during hunting season and in a hunting area.
In my specific case, me CCW could be loss side of the loss benefit scale. My part of Florida is kind of safe, as long as you are not in the drug trade. In Wyoming, I'm either in the woods or Mayberry. I don't judge others by my situation. I have been in some rough parts of DC and Manila and never thought about even if I legally could. I did have a heightened sense of awareness. There are parts of Coral Gables, FL, I would and not a small pistol. Not because of gangs or even other humans. Because the neighborhoods of foreclosed and abandoned McMansions are now prime habitat to invasive species like Pythons, Boas, and Nile Monitors.
But I think the idea behind hanging out at Starbucks is simply the same tactic as the gay pride parades, larger social acceptance. Notice where you see OC stunts. They don't happen in Kingman, Arizona. I don't call that paranoid. Might be defeating the purpose, maybe not.
As for CCW, depends on the specific case. If I lived or worked in a shitty area, had threats against my life, crazy stalking former lover, or simply being gay in an area with fifty profitable Chick Filaes and lots of "Fred Phelps for president" bumper stickers, CCW would be a prudent thing to do.
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Unless a criminal action is imminent or in progress, the officers' opinion is irrelevent/immaterial.
PavePusher
Aug 2012
#110
There is nothing unsafe about a chambered round in a slung AR pattern rifle.
Callisto32
Aug 2012
#33
Ruger New Vaquero (blued) in .357 -- a pair with consecutive serial numbers :-)
holdencaufield
Aug 2012
#107
Not being loaded means that an immediate threat can not be dealt with in a timely manner.
PavePusher
Aug 2012
#109
I don't prepare my weapon to fire until I have a target identified. It's proper safety.
RegieRocker
Aug 2012
#77
How do you know he's legal and not another Holmes, Stawicki, Zimmerman, Loughner, etc.
Hoyt
Aug 2012
#36
No I didn't. I just have a bit more respect for people with some knowledge of the language.
HERVEPA
Aug 2012
#112
Could you provide a definition that can distinguish between defending your rights
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#49
No one calls the police about a protest sign fearing for the public safety. n/t
ellisonz
Aug 2012
#50
You can spin all you want: the bottom-line is this guy is a shit-stirring nut. n/t
ellisonz
Aug 2012
#52
Yeah we have open carry in my state too and we can even open carry in our vehicles
indie9197
Aug 2012
#4
I imagine his adrenaline is making it difficult to maintain his train of thought and appear composed
trouble.smith
Aug 2012
#126
I've never questioned the concept of using your right to use and bear arms...
holdencaufield
Aug 2012
#41
So, peaceful, lawful exercise of Constitutional RIghts now equals "be(ing) a dick"?
PavePusher
Aug 2012
#62
Public demonstrations, even those within the bounds of the law, are often inconvenient.
aikoaiko
Aug 2012
#22
Nope. Self-defense, in all states, requires more than "feeling" threatened.
GreenStormCloud
Aug 2012
#38
The courts have stated that mere presence of a weapon does not constitute an automatic threat.
PavePusher
Aug 2012
#67
I wonder if simarly courtesy would have been extended to him if he were black, Hispanic or Arab
bluestateguy
Aug 2012
#56
Good job by the cops in not telling this asshole what they really think of what he's doing directly
HERVEPA
Aug 2012
#70
The policeman is a very well spoken and polite. Impressive. The guy with the gun is a jerk.
AlinPA
Aug 2012
#71
Guy is bullshit and trying to cause trouble - these nra people are nuts in your face with danger
2Design
Aug 2012
#80
Ok, so I'm at the movies, and I have a conceal and carry lisence ... and then you arrive
JoePhilly
Aug 2012
#82
Most states do not issue open carry liscenses, so I'm going to assume they don't have one.
Travis_0004
Aug 2012
#104
The value of training is obvious ... the requirement to have it tends to be missing.
JoePhilly
Aug 2012
#128
So in a mobvie theater, in the dark, with some people dresseed up in costume ... people
JoePhilly
Aug 2012
#136
In the situation I described, there was no "bad guy". Just a couple of untrained ...
JoePhilly
Aug 2012
#135
That's a pretty scary scenario, but I don't recall reading of any cases where it actually happened
petronius
Aug 2012
#137
We don't have everyone armed sufficiently yet. But if we work hard enough ...
JoePhilly
Aug 2012
#138
Eh, more of the same "friendly fire" horseshit they've been peddling for years...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#144
Actually, s/he seems to be advocating pulling some vile cross of a 1984/Zimmerman.
PavePusher
Aug 2012
#145
The people who run the theater are within their property rights to ask you to leave
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2012
#120
And when they approach you and ask you to leave, should they be concerned for
JoePhilly
Aug 2012
#139
If they genuinely fear for their safety, they can call the police and ask THEM
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2012
#142