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Hoyt

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60. I know, Illus, kindergartens are really scary places.

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Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:41 PM

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George Zimmerman's attorneys won't use "stand your ground" defense [View all] TPaine7 Aug 2012 OP

I believe pretty much everyone agreed this wasn't an SYG case. ileus Aug 2012 #1

Well said nt Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #2

Of course SYG is still relevant. DanTex Aug 2012 #3

+1 Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #4

It wasn't due to stand your ground, it was due to incompetence or political intrigue. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #5

Here, let me jog your memory. DanTex Aug 2012 #10

Good links bongbong Aug 2012 #17

Hmmmm... TPaine7 Aug 2012 #32

Kudos, dude. ;) HALO141 Aug 2012 #36

Thanks for your support n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #37

LOL. So many words, but zero content. DanTex Aug 2012 #39

Zero convenient content TPaine7 Aug 2012 #43

It's always funny... DanTex Aug 2012 #45

It is funny. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #50

Lives saved by SYG? DanTex Aug 2012 #51

Hmmmm... TPaine7 Aug 2012 #55

... DanTex Aug 2012 #56

that doesn't even remotely sound logical gejohnston Aug 2012 #6

Except that it's true. DanTex Aug 2012 #14

except that is what the press release of the study claims gejohnston Aug 2012 #18

That's where proper instruction, training, and understanding ileus Aug 2012 #7

Aren't those laws already covered when you get a permit? Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #9

Some states maybe....Virginia no. ileus Aug 2012 #12

Ah ok Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #15

So rrneck Aug 2012 #8

It also increased the number of justifiable homicides ... spin Aug 2012 #13

LOL. Try reading a little more carefully. DanTex Aug 2012 #16

while it claims a the laws gejohnston Aug 2012 #20

Since I'm at work Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #21

I thought the homicide rates have been decreasing for some time. Kaleva Aug 2012 #22

They have. DanTex Aug 2012 #23

Okay. Thanks for the explanation! Kaleva Aug 2012 #24

Basically, yes. DanTex Aug 2012 #25

how would the castle doctrine cause the gejohnston Aug 2012 #26

Lots of ways. For example, it could encourage vigilanteism. DanTex Aug 2012 #27

do you know the difference between castle doctrine and SYG? gejohnston Aug 2012 #28

Nobody is surprised that you can't tell the difference between science and talking points. DanTex Aug 2012 #29

Nobody is surprised that you pretend to tell the difference to make yourself feel good. gejohnston Aug 2012 #30

You are totally ignoring my point. ... spin Aug 2012 #38

You're joking, right? DanTex Aug 2012 #40

I not only empathized the important part of the conclusion but I underlined it ... spin Aug 2012 #41

Hoist on his own petard. n/t X_Digger Aug 2012 #42

Literacy is such an important life skill. n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #44

That's why you need to look at the actual numbers DanTex Aug 2012 #46

If the numbers were right in the report then why did the authors use weasel words ... spin Aug 2012 #52

What you call "weasel words" are actually pretty normal for an economics paper. DanTex Aug 2012 #54

Wrong. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #58

Umm, no you are wrong. DanTex Aug 2012 #61

Really? You doubt my assumption? TPaine7 Aug 2012 #62

Yes, really. DanTex Aug 2012 #63

Ok then... TPaine7 Aug 2012 #66

How the externality could be positive: DanTex Aug 2012 #68

Well, we still disagree, but I enjoyed this conversation n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #69

I agree n/t DanTex Aug 2012 #70

Right. Callisto32 Aug 2012 #19

I also infer... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #11

Could that be because of George pursuing Trayvon after the dispatcher told him muntrv Aug 2012 #31

I think he could get around that. The dispatcher's suggestion does not carry the force of law. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #33

He ignored his training which was only to observe and report. Kaleva Aug 2012 #34

Agreed, but not legally definitive. n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #35

Last night I was talking to a local police officer in my area of Florida... spin Aug 2012 #64

It's already been used. Zman initially walked and would have remained uncharged without protests. Hoyt Aug 2012 #47

that had nothing to do with SYG either gejohnston Aug 2012 #48

Yes it did. Besides, you gun cultists will always claim they felt threatened by unarmed teenager -- Hoyt Aug 2012 #49

Teenagers can be very dangerous ... spin Aug 2012 #53

Kids are innocent...besides at your advanced age ileus Aug 2012 #57

I know, Illus, kindergartens are really scary places. Hoyt Aug 2012 #60

If your Kindergartens have teens then I'm sure ileus Aug 2012 #74

Uncle Sam also promised me that I would have free medical care for the rest of my life ... spin Aug 2012 #67

My Dad won't go anywhere near a VA hospital. ileus Aug 2012 #75

Spin, it must be tough going through life -- with your gun -- thinking of ways to distrust people. Hoyt Aug 2012 #59

Nope. Not tough at all. spin Aug 2012 #65

Is it me or is Hoyt a little grumpier than usual? nt Union Scribe Aug 2012 #71

Been staying up late to protect my Obama sign from the local right wing, bigoted gun cultists. Hoyt Aug 2012 #72

claymores gejohnston Aug 2012 #73

Kind of pricey ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #76

So you are at war with your neighbors as well as some of your fellow DUers slackmaster Aug 2012 #77