911 call, woman begs for her life, found murdered.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

18. (1) Firearms are not "toys."

(2) The loss of the Democratic control over Congress in 1994 showed that the issue of private ownership of firearms for self-defense was a major issue for gun-owning Democrats and gun-owning independents. The concern was not limited to "some in the gun culture."

(3) Your use of a reductio ad absurdum argument undermines your credibility and your implicit representation that you desire to "attract" voters for the Democratic Party. You say, "I really don't think there are that many people who will pull the lever for a Democrat that straps on a few guns to attract them." So what? No Democratic candidate is going to "strap on a few guns" and you cannot seriously believe that any Democratic candidate would do that.

(4) Discontinuing your endless campaign for the advocacy of returning to the gun-control represented in the 1993 legislation would not be "appeasing you guys." Nor would it involve any action by you to "capitulate regarding guns."

(5) Engaging in name calling and referring to some people as "the most bigoted, callous people in our country" is not helping your cause.

(6) The posts made by you on this board (as well as me) will not determine which laws are passed.

(7) Your anti-gun campaign with multiple posts on this board shows that your opposition is not limited to "guns in public."

(8) Your question about how I would vote in an imaginary situation is irrelevant. What this is about is the advocacy for anti-gun legislation which is not an issue for Democratic candidates and which has the potential to revive an issue which was an important factor in the loss of the 1994 election. See Bill Clinton's analysis in #8.