Gun Control & RKBA

Reasonable_Argument

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26. No kidding

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 01:49 PM

Aug 2012

A lot of good men died to ensure we have those "so called rights". Many such men died when we were throwing his countrymen back into the ocean. I'm not really interested in a person's opinion on our rights when they spend centuries under the control of the crown and didn't have the backbone to overthrow it.

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America's gun laws: madness sanctioned by history [View all] SecularMotion Aug 2012 OP

"the so-called Bill of Rights", eh? LOL...them brits are a laugh a minute.. pipoman Aug 2012 #1

No kidding Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #26

deserves a big rec, particularly this paragraph . . . DrDan Aug 2012 #2

P.A. Luty holdencaufield Aug 2012 #3

Unfortunately for you, hyperbole and non-factual assertions are meaningless. n/t PavePusher Aug 2012 #13

LOL Your post is the very definition of hyperbole. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #14

"non-factual"? DrDan Aug 2012 #25

Prove it then. Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #31

This is a more rational piece than the gun owner propaganda we get here at DU. upaloopa Aug 2012 #4

Naturally, no mention of the fact Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #5

Guns certainly enable violence, and help cowards intimidate others (Zimmerman as example). Hoyt Aug 2012 #6

And doors help keep the police out. Ban all doors. Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #7

So why is it states with higher rates of gun ownership 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #11

Actually, look at southern states -- they have highest rates of gun ownership AND violent crime. Hoyt Aug 2012 #44

And western states have the highest rate of gun ownership and lowest rates of crime 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #49

Your citation completely refutes your claim. Read the dang thing before offering it as "proof." Hoyt Aug 2012 #50

How does "no direct causal relationship" refute my claims when I'm claiming that 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #51

Your post #11 said states with higher rates of gun ownership don't have higher rates violent crime. Hoyt Aug 2012 #52

Some states with high gun ownership rates have high crime rates 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #53

My theory is guns in public - snd the crud that go with them - are bad for society. Hoyt Aug 2012 #55

Great. Now what comes after formulating a hypothesis? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #57

Don't have time now to splain everything to you. What do guns in your pants contribute to society? Hoyt Aug 2012 #59

So you reject the scientific method 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #61

"Scientific Method" is seldom applicable to politics and issues impacting society's future. Hoyt Aug 2012 #63

I guess some things just don't have to be studied for you to "know" they're true 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #64

Correct, I don't need a study to tell me "throwing virgins in volcano does not appease gods." Hoyt Aug 2012 #65

Ahahahahahaha 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #66

"the "Wild West" wasn't all that bloody" - Really? By whose standards? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #15

that wasn't because of gejohnston Aug 2012 #16

Right. That doesn't make it violent when the army does it. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #20

you missed the point gejohnston Aug 2012 #24

No, I don't miss the point. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #29

in your opinion gejohnston Aug 2012 #32

I live in the "Wild West", I have my whole life, from Wichita to Midland to Denver. Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #33

And how do I think it was, according to you? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #38

You sure do seem to buy into "Hollywood's version", hook line and sinker. Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #40

The gangs and contract killers had better gejohnston Aug 2012 #41

Gun carriers aren't living or perpetuating any myth. Nor are they extremists. NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #37

Not all gun carriers are extremists, but indiscriminate carrying is extreme behavior. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #39

I think I understand better, then. NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #42

I don't consider the simple act of carrying extreme either. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #71

Cowboys had enough sense to require folks to turn in their guns before going into a bar. Hoyt Aug 2012 #46

The 'cowboys' weren't requiring anything. Jenoch Aug 2012 #67

Fact is, they didn't go into bars armed --who gives a crud about whether it was cowboys, or elected Hoyt Aug 2012 #68

If that's true why did so many shootings happen in bars? Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #69

You made a factual error. I simply corrected it. Jenoch Aug 2012 #70

Lots of things are legal, but immoral and an affront to society. Hoyt Aug 2012 #72

I strongly agree with you. Jenoch Aug 2012 #73

I bet you do. Hoyt Aug 2012 #79

I agree gejohnston Aug 2012 #74

In my view,toting falls right in their with displaying swastikas,, confederate flags,greedy Hoyt Aug 2012 #80

Indeed, guns in the hands of an organized military force can be quite dangerous 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #19

So that makes genocide OK if they were wearing uniforms? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #22

I don't know if they give out awards for strawmen 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #23

"Can you acknowledge the historical fact that civilian gun ownership wasn't a major contributor.." EX500rider Aug 2012 #56

The point, as I read it... NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #43

Firearms for self defense are indeed a lot like fire extinguishers and spare tires ... spin Aug 2012 #75

Don't you not see how absurd that statement is? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #81

Of course you can use a fire extinquisher for self defense ... spin Aug 2012 #82

uk blogs... relevent to US rights? ileus Aug 2012 #8

Relevant to leading the way to sanity and away from arrogant stupidity. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #17

If by sanity Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #27

Sorry, I have no idea what your post means. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #30

He means Missycim Aug 2012 #34

That is why we have cans of beans. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #58

Or we can always use a can of beans! (n/t) spin Aug 2012 #76

Well Said... ileus Aug 2012 #54

I wonder what the OP thinks about this opinion Jenoch Aug 2012 #9

I think he agrees... NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #45

You can't ask him/her otherwise you will be called a stalker rl6214 Aug 2012 #83

I think the special forces would be pretty upset if they had to carry 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #10

28 Gun Crimes Commited Daily in UK holdencaufield Aug 2012 #12

How many dead? How many were real guns? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #18

most probably were real guns gejohnston Aug 2012 #21

Anyone can get a gun if they don't mind facing the consequences if caught with it. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #28

Did you actually think before you Missycim Aug 2012 #35

Consider murderers who are facing life in prison or possibly the death penalty 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #36

That last one would actually make me pretty angry. NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #47

Chances are if you go on a killing spree you'll at least get a wikipedia page 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #48

So-called Bill of Rights? Clames Aug 2012 #60

So called Bill of Rights. glacierbay Aug 2012 #62

The Brits are concerned? They should be concerned with England and Wales, and the great number AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #77

This is quite disturbing considering that England is only a little bigger in landmass than rDigital Aug 2012 #78