Gun Control & RKBA

Politicalboi

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10. So let's see

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 04:00 PM

Aug 2012

Doctor's who oppose abortion can opt out. But a professor who's life could be in danger has to Shut the Fuck Up. This IS ridiculous. If I were teaching there, I would make the school follow it's rules I was hired under which hopefully would NOT allow guns at school. Otherwise, I would sue the shit out of them for breaking their part of the deal. Fuck the law, it's private property.

I doubt this was their contract.

"And, DiStefano added, any faculty members who do so will be in violation of their contracts and face disciplinary action".

Yes we have had school shootings. But there are probably more angry students at professors who they feel are too liberal, or insults "their" god and decides to shoot them right there at school. That is probably more likely than a student school shooting. Although I guess that number WILL rise as well.

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CU-Boulder: Profs have no right to cancel classes over gun-carrying students [View all] TPaine7 Aug 2012 OP

I feel for the phobic students, who think they need to carry guns to class. And the phobic posters villager Aug 2012 #1

Be careful is your phobia showing? nt jody Aug 2012 #5

Is that a concealed phobia in your pocket, or is class just that exciting to you? villager Aug 2012 #25

You DO know that CSU has allowed students with a CHP to carry on campus for years Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #6

Is that supposed to prove something? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #105

It apparently proves Jenoch Aug 2012 #116

I'd say the fear of a loaded gun always has a basis in reality Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #121

law of probability gejohnston Aug 2012 #125

It apparently proves Jenoch Aug 2012 #134

I think it would tend to disprove the "Blood in the Quad" canard NT Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #118

Says villager, as he defends a common phobia. n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #7

Says "TPaine7," as he vents his outrage that someone, somewhere, might not worship Lord Gun villager Aug 2012 #27

That's right, heathen, REPENT!!!!!!! n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #46

Why does the larger community need to have all CCWers disarmed? N/T GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #13

On the one hand grabbers argue that the US is a shooting gallery 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #15

it's like particle/wave duality, except the answer depends on the propaganda function the data TPaine7 Aug 2012 #26

On the other hand proliferationists argue that guns have no bearing in gun crimes, villager Aug 2012 #29

I see what you tried to do there, but you failed horribly 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #37

Nice sidestep there. However, gun ownership has nothing to do with this thread. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #108

I don't worship my guns, but at least they are real, unlike all the make-believe gods spayneuter Aug 2012 #60

+100 Classic case of individual fear trumping societal needs. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #104

depending on the situation gejohnston Aug 2012 #106

What is irrational about fearing loaded weapons in a classroom? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #124

he or she is not playing security guard gejohnston Aug 2012 #126

"the crazy stalking ex"? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #127

going from the classroom to the car gejohnston Aug 2012 #130

Bit of a stretch there GE Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #131

but no one would know anyone is armed gejohnston Aug 2012 #137

If he's dumb enough to carry a gun to class, he's dumb enough to let it be known. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #138

On campuses where it always has been legal gejohnston Aug 2012 #139

Of course not, until the shit hits the fan. Kinda like buying real estate in California. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #140

"Group safety should almost always trump individual safety" Angleae Aug 2012 #141

Bullshit! Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #143

Hard to imagine how anyone could adequately address -that- amazing logic... spayneuter Aug 2012 #145

You must be referring, of course, to the individual Jenoch Aug 2012 #115

It will be interesting to watch this play out. nt jody Aug 2012 #2

It will inevitably be tragic to watch this play out. hlthe2b Aug 2012 #4

How so? Look at the other 20+ colleges in the nation that allow it.. X_Digger Aug 2012 #30

How'd you like to hand a "FAIL" grade to a student who may well be armed? hlthe2b Aug 2012 #3

How would you like to hand a "FAIL" to a marine who knows lots of ways to kill you barehanded TPaine7 Aug 2012 #8

Operative caveat: "If you're sane". You nailed that one. spayneuter Aug 2012 #61

it is legal for a permit holder to carry in a bar in Colorado now, don't see a huge number of arrest Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #9

give it time....you say if everyone could have a gun we are safer..I say movonne Aug 2012 #36

Re: give it time Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #69

Ah, but that's too logical. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #110

they can sell them at the nearest gun store or pawn shop gejohnston Aug 2012 #113

So why the concern over concealed carry laws if it is a short term fad? hack89 Aug 2012 #117

My concern is not so much for the law as the practice. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #122

Do you expect the criminal class to increase? hack89 Aug 2012 #123

Not sure what you mean by "the criminal class" Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #128

So more guns will result in more criminals seems to be your logic. hack89 Aug 2012 #129

I didn't say that. You did. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #132

And of course you have actual evidence of this? hack89 Aug 2012 #133

Non-fatal gun injuries exceed the fatalities 3 fold. You do the math. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #135

Are the numbers going up or down? Simple question. hack89 Aug 2012 #136

Norlin Library at CU “WHO KNOWS ONLY HIS OWN GENERATION REMAINS ALWAYS A CHILD” by CU President jody Aug 2012 #11

You really think carriers are gonna spring into action when they have a bad day? ileus Aug 2012 #17

No.. only the unhinged ones that we have no way of detecting prior to the permit being issued hlthe2b Aug 2012 #28

The solution is simple: just imprision everyone because they might go nuts at some future time spayneuter Aug 2012 #146

How would you like to fire an employee knowing he may own a gun? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #18

The professors do not Jenoch Aug 2012 #40

How often do these students punch or stab their professors? Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #45

Do we remember the San Diego State University shooting? KansDem Aug 2012 #56

I'm pretty sure firearms have always been prohibited on Cal State campuses, petronius Aug 2012 #57

Not entirely ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #65

Certainly not in that case. Clames Aug 2012 #58

Of course a ban on firearms Jenoch Aug 2012 #63

So let's see Politicalboi Aug 2012 #10

"a professor who's life could be in danger" TPaine7 Aug 2012 #12

If a student plans on murdering his prof banning CHL holders from legally carrying won't save him 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #20

The proliferationists aren't happy until they can explicitly force their sickness on everyone else villager Aug 2012 #32

Nobody is forcing anyone to carry who doesn't want to. HALO141 Aug 2012 #90

It's basic fundamentalism: Their worship signs (the gun) shall be everywhere! Or else! villager Aug 2012 #94

Don't be ridiculous HALO141 Aug 2012 #95

It's not private property. Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #44

It's not private property it's a state owned school Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #71

Have pity on the gun-lovers bongbong Aug 2012 #14

I appreciate the thoughtfulness, intellectual rigor and originality that you bring to your posts. n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #16

Originality? bongbong Aug 2012 #24

Given the exact NRA rhetoric they use, isn't just really "copy and paste?" villager Aug 2012 #35

Benefit of the doubt bongbong Aug 2012 #42

Faxes? Jenoch Aug 2012 #41

I'm sure he sincerely believes that the NRA sends blast faxes to certain DUers. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #74

How does one Jenoch Aug 2012 #86

mobile version of efax? gejohnston Aug 2012 #88

So where's the evidence for these "blast faxes"? Or is this simply more hoplophobe CT? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #73

fax? HALO141 Aug 2012 #92

NRA uses email, not faxes. N/T GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #114

Preach it to those people! ileus Aug 2012 #19

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #21

boring? bongbong Aug 2012 #23

I think you should have stopped at one bong. spayneuter Aug 2012 #62

Imaginative insult bongbong Aug 2012 #98

Well, what is truly roll-on-the-floor laughable is that some people appear to be perambulating spayneuter Aug 2012 #144

You get one, too. HALO141 Aug 2012 #91

It appears to me that some professors are to scared to teach in a classroom ... spin Aug 2012 #93

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #97

I notice that you failed to respond to any of my comments .... spin Aug 2012 #99

More laughs bongbong Aug 2012 #100

Here's one of my comments that you failed to notice ... spin Aug 2012 #103

So, how many sock puppet logins does Professor Peterson have on DU? slackmaster Aug 2012 #22

Great question! n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #31

Concealed carry is just that - concealed. No one should ever know. Case closed. geckosfeet Aug 2012 #33

Who is likely to carry on campus? -- a loser, a right wing homeschooled kid, someone needing self Hoyt Aug 2012 #34

Who is more likely to ignore "gun free" zones 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #38

Another prize award bongbong Aug 2012 #43

I am the one who congratulated you on your originality in post 16. n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #48

LOL bongbong Aug 2012 #51

Hmmmmm... TPaine7 Aug 2012 #54

Been in a lot of gun free zones, felt very comfortable -- not just because of lack of guns, but the Hoyt Aug 2012 #49

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #50

More beautiful? Pehaps... But all the beans give off a strange odor. Common Sense Party Aug 2012 #72

I carry on campus and do not fall into any of those groups ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #66

Have you submitted to Hoyt's "psychic, long-distance, reality-free psychological evaluation (TM)"? TPaine7 Aug 2012 #67

Well I only carry to my office where I lock it up ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #68

Unstable and/or violent students are certainly a concern, and all faculty petronius Aug 2012 #39

And of course all CCW holders are always in control SheilaT Aug 2012 #47

You do realize that not all police, FBI agents, DEA agents, ICE agents, ATF agents, deputy sheriffs, TPaine7 Aug 2012 #53

Supporting those requirements is all well and good, SheilaT Aug 2012 #70

Are all your posts that inaccurate? Mexico's murder rate is 4X that of the US: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #75

are murders by other means trivial to you? gejohnston Aug 2012 #76

maybe, but I'm gonna put it in my syllabus that a weapon=F Sancho Aug 2012 #52

Go for it. A smart student would sue, get the grade reversed and perhaps lose you tenure TPaine7 Aug 2012 #55

Same as pharmacists who refuse to dispense birth control because of their idiot religious beliefs. spayneuter Aug 2012 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author DWC Aug 2012 #64

Why would a student want or need to bring a gun to their class? nt ladjf Aug 2012 #77

Get a back grade HockeyMom Aug 2012 #78

There are several colleges that have allowed CCW on campus for years. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #80

If you actually didn't know, there have been people who have shot dozens of unarmed students TPaine7 Aug 2012 #79

There is also the choice to NOT GO to a college that allows guns HockeyMom Aug 2012 #81

I absolutely agree. You have the right to attend a private school whose policy is that you TPaine7 Aug 2012 #82

And how exactly does that stop a killer illegally bringing a gun on campus? Forgotten Va Tech? hack89 Aug 2012 #83

Site me the last mass shooting in a campus HockeyMom Aug 2012 #84

Being so rare, I can cite states with extremely high gun ownership rates and no mass shootings ever. hack89 Aug 2012 #85

I don't know the exact odds of getting shot while in a college classroom. But, it would have to be ladjf Aug 2012 #119

depends on the individual situation gejohnston Aug 2012 #120

Google Va Tech NT Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #96

How would he find out???? DWC Aug 2012 #87

It amazes me how educated people can fear honest gun owners. ... spin Aug 2012 #89

A classroom should be a safe place to learn. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #101

if it is properly concealed gejohnston Aug 2012 #102

Good for Prof. Peterson. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #107

education is supposed to be about open minds gejohnston Aug 2012 #109

I've no idea how he would know. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #111

Is that a gun in your pocket DWC Aug 2012 #142

The only impediment to teaching in this story is Prof. Peterson himself petronius Aug 2012 #112