(UK) Horden shootings: killer held six gun licences

[DanTex]

23. Yes, facts are facts.

Your post is a perfect example of the extremism and inability to weigh costs and benefits that pervades the right-wing rhetoric on the issue of guns. The question I was addressing is whether gun availability results in more gun crimes, homicides, suicides, accidents, and whether gun control can be effective in reducing gun violence. And the facts and statistics show that the answer is yes. But you aren't interested in any of that, which is why you aren't able to do much besides hammer the "constitutional rights" line.

However, the constitutional issue is a separate one. You are right that, as long as we have a right-wing majority on the court, we are going to keep getting right-wing decisions like Heller. But that doesn't mean this is a good thing. I don't know about you, but Scalia has made other decisions I disagree with.

I guess what I keep finding odd is the inability of pro-gunners to distinguish between two different questions:
1) Would it be a good idea to have tighter gun laws?
2) Is the government is likely to enact tighter gun laws in the near future?
My post was about question (1). The fact that Scalia has re-interpreted the second amendment to include civilian gun ownership for self-defense is an argument about question (2).