Gun Control & RKBA

SheilaT

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47. And of course all CCW holders are always in control

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 05:34 PM

Aug 2012

of their firearms at all times. I'm sure that guy in Nevada recently intended to drop his weapon so it would discharge.

All I can say I'm grateful the bullet hit him and not someone else.

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CU-Boulder: Profs have no right to cancel classes over gun-carrying students [View all] TPaine7 Aug 2012 OP

I feel for the phobic students, who think they need to carry guns to class. And the phobic posters villager Aug 2012 #1

Be careful is your phobia showing? nt jody Aug 2012 #5

Is that a concealed phobia in your pocket, or is class just that exciting to you? villager Aug 2012 #25

You DO know that CSU has allowed students with a CHP to carry on campus for years Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #6

Is that supposed to prove something? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #105

It apparently proves Jenoch Aug 2012 #116

I'd say the fear of a loaded gun always has a basis in reality Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #121

law of probability gejohnston Aug 2012 #125

It apparently proves Jenoch Aug 2012 #134

I think it would tend to disprove the "Blood in the Quad" canard NT Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #118

Says villager, as he defends a common phobia. n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #7

Says "TPaine7," as he vents his outrage that someone, somewhere, might not worship Lord Gun villager Aug 2012 #27

That's right, heathen, REPENT!!!!!!! n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #46

Why does the larger community need to have all CCWers disarmed? N/T GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #13

On the one hand grabbers argue that the US is a shooting gallery 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #15

it's like particle/wave duality, except the answer depends on the propaganda function the data TPaine7 Aug 2012 #26

On the other hand proliferationists argue that guns have no bearing in gun crimes, villager Aug 2012 #29

I see what you tried to do there, but you failed horribly 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #37

Nice sidestep there. However, gun ownership has nothing to do with this thread. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #108

I don't worship my guns, but at least they are real, unlike all the make-believe gods spayneuter Aug 2012 #60

+100 Classic case of individual fear trumping societal needs. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #104

depending on the situation gejohnston Aug 2012 #106

What is irrational about fearing loaded weapons in a classroom? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #124

he or she is not playing security guard gejohnston Aug 2012 #126

"the crazy stalking ex"? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #127

going from the classroom to the car gejohnston Aug 2012 #130

Bit of a stretch there GE Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #131

but no one would know anyone is armed gejohnston Aug 2012 #137

If he's dumb enough to carry a gun to class, he's dumb enough to let it be known. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #138

On campuses where it always has been legal gejohnston Aug 2012 #139

Of course not, until the shit hits the fan. Kinda like buying real estate in California. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #140

"Group safety should almost always trump individual safety" Angleae Aug 2012 #141

Bullshit! Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #143

Hard to imagine how anyone could adequately address -that- amazing logic... spayneuter Aug 2012 #145

You must be referring, of course, to the individual Jenoch Aug 2012 #115

It will be interesting to watch this play out. nt jody Aug 2012 #2

It will inevitably be tragic to watch this play out. hlthe2b Aug 2012 #4

How so? Look at the other 20+ colleges in the nation that allow it.. X_Digger Aug 2012 #30

How'd you like to hand a "FAIL" grade to a student who may well be armed? hlthe2b Aug 2012 #3

How would you like to hand a "FAIL" to a marine who knows lots of ways to kill you barehanded TPaine7 Aug 2012 #8

Operative caveat: "If you're sane". You nailed that one. spayneuter Aug 2012 #61

it is legal for a permit holder to carry in a bar in Colorado now, don't see a huge number of arrest Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #9

give it time....you say if everyone could have a gun we are safer..I say movonne Aug 2012 #36

Re: give it time Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #69

Ah, but that's too logical. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #110

they can sell them at the nearest gun store or pawn shop gejohnston Aug 2012 #113

So why the concern over concealed carry laws if it is a short term fad? hack89 Aug 2012 #117

My concern is not so much for the law as the practice. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #122

Do you expect the criminal class to increase? hack89 Aug 2012 #123

Not sure what you mean by "the criminal class" Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #128

So more guns will result in more criminals seems to be your logic. hack89 Aug 2012 #129

I didn't say that. You did. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #132

And of course you have actual evidence of this? hack89 Aug 2012 #133

Non-fatal gun injuries exceed the fatalities 3 fold. You do the math. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #135

Are the numbers going up or down? Simple question. hack89 Aug 2012 #136

Norlin Library at CU “WHO KNOWS ONLY HIS OWN GENERATION REMAINS ALWAYS A CHILD” by CU President jody Aug 2012 #11

You really think carriers are gonna spring into action when they have a bad day? ileus Aug 2012 #17

No.. only the unhinged ones that we have no way of detecting prior to the permit being issued hlthe2b Aug 2012 #28

The solution is simple: just imprision everyone because they might go nuts at some future time spayneuter Aug 2012 #146

How would you like to fire an employee knowing he may own a gun? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #18

The professors do not Jenoch Aug 2012 #40

How often do these students punch or stab their professors? Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #45

Do we remember the San Diego State University shooting? KansDem Aug 2012 #56

I'm pretty sure firearms have always been prohibited on Cal State campuses, petronius Aug 2012 #57

Not entirely ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #65

Certainly not in that case. Clames Aug 2012 #58

Of course a ban on firearms Jenoch Aug 2012 #63

So let's see Politicalboi Aug 2012 #10

"a professor who's life could be in danger" TPaine7 Aug 2012 #12

If a student plans on murdering his prof banning CHL holders from legally carrying won't save him 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #20

The proliferationists aren't happy until they can explicitly force their sickness on everyone else villager Aug 2012 #32

Nobody is forcing anyone to carry who doesn't want to. HALO141 Aug 2012 #90

It's basic fundamentalism: Their worship signs (the gun) shall be everywhere! Or else! villager Aug 2012 #94

Don't be ridiculous HALO141 Aug 2012 #95

It's not private property. Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #44

It's not private property it's a state owned school Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #71

Have pity on the gun-lovers bongbong Aug 2012 #14

I appreciate the thoughtfulness, intellectual rigor and originality that you bring to your posts. n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #16

Originality? bongbong Aug 2012 #24

Given the exact NRA rhetoric they use, isn't just really "copy and paste?" villager Aug 2012 #35

Benefit of the doubt bongbong Aug 2012 #42

Faxes? Jenoch Aug 2012 #41

I'm sure he sincerely believes that the NRA sends blast faxes to certain DUers. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #74

How does one Jenoch Aug 2012 #86

mobile version of efax? gejohnston Aug 2012 #88

So where's the evidence for these "blast faxes"? Or is this simply more hoplophobe CT? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #73

fax? HALO141 Aug 2012 #92

NRA uses email, not faxes. N/T GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #114

Preach it to those people! ileus Aug 2012 #19

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boring? bongbong Aug 2012 #23

I think you should have stopped at one bong. spayneuter Aug 2012 #62

Imaginative insult bongbong Aug 2012 #98

Well, what is truly roll-on-the-floor laughable is that some people appear to be perambulating spayneuter Aug 2012 #144

You get one, too. HALO141 Aug 2012 #91

It appears to me that some professors are to scared to teach in a classroom ... spin Aug 2012 #93

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #97

I notice that you failed to respond to any of my comments .... spin Aug 2012 #99

More laughs bongbong Aug 2012 #100

Here's one of my comments that you failed to notice ... spin Aug 2012 #103

So, how many sock puppet logins does Professor Peterson have on DU? slackmaster Aug 2012 #22

Great question! n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #31

Concealed carry is just that - concealed. No one should ever know. Case closed. geckosfeet Aug 2012 #33

Who is likely to carry on campus? -- a loser, a right wing homeschooled kid, someone needing self Hoyt Aug 2012 #34

Who is more likely to ignore "gun free" zones 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #38

Another prize award bongbong Aug 2012 #43

I am the one who congratulated you on your originality in post 16. n/t TPaine7 Aug 2012 #48

LOL bongbong Aug 2012 #51

Hmmmmm... TPaine7 Aug 2012 #54

Been in a lot of gun free zones, felt very comfortable -- not just because of lack of guns, but the Hoyt Aug 2012 #49

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #50

More beautiful? Pehaps... But all the beans give off a strange odor. Common Sense Party Aug 2012 #72

I carry on campus and do not fall into any of those groups ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #66

Have you submitted to Hoyt's "psychic, long-distance, reality-free psychological evaluation (TM)"? TPaine7 Aug 2012 #67

Well I only carry to my office where I lock it up ProgressiveProfessor Aug 2012 #68

Unstable and/or violent students are certainly a concern, and all faculty petronius Aug 2012 #39

And of course all CCW holders are always in control SheilaT Aug 2012 #47

You do realize that not all police, FBI agents, DEA agents, ICE agents, ATF agents, deputy sheriffs, TPaine7 Aug 2012 #53

Supporting those requirements is all well and good, SheilaT Aug 2012 #70

Are all your posts that inaccurate? Mexico's murder rate is 4X that of the US: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #75

are murders by other means trivial to you? gejohnston Aug 2012 #76

maybe, but I'm gonna put it in my syllabus that a weapon=F Sancho Aug 2012 #52

Go for it. A smart student would sue, get the grade reversed and perhaps lose you tenure TPaine7 Aug 2012 #55

Same as pharmacists who refuse to dispense birth control because of their idiot religious beliefs. spayneuter Aug 2012 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author DWC Aug 2012 #64

Why would a student want or need to bring a gun to their class? nt ladjf Aug 2012 #77

Get a back grade HockeyMom Aug 2012 #78

There are several colleges that have allowed CCW on campus for years. TPaine7 Aug 2012 #80

If you actually didn't know, there have been people who have shot dozens of unarmed students TPaine7 Aug 2012 #79

There is also the choice to NOT GO to a college that allows guns HockeyMom Aug 2012 #81

I absolutely agree. You have the right to attend a private school whose policy is that you TPaine7 Aug 2012 #82

And how exactly does that stop a killer illegally bringing a gun on campus? Forgotten Va Tech? hack89 Aug 2012 #83

Site me the last mass shooting in a campus HockeyMom Aug 2012 #84

Being so rare, I can cite states with extremely high gun ownership rates and no mass shootings ever. hack89 Aug 2012 #85

I don't know the exact odds of getting shot while in a college classroom. But, it would have to be ladjf Aug 2012 #119

depends on the individual situation gejohnston Aug 2012 #120

Google Va Tech NT Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #96

How would he find out???? DWC Aug 2012 #87

It amazes me how educated people can fear honest gun owners. ... spin Aug 2012 #89

A classroom should be a safe place to learn. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #101

if it is properly concealed gejohnston Aug 2012 #102

Good for Prof. Peterson. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #107

education is supposed to be about open minds gejohnston Aug 2012 #109

I've no idea how he would know. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #111

Is that a gun in your pocket DWC Aug 2012 #142

The only impediment to teaching in this story is Prof. Peterson himself petronius Aug 2012 #112