Gun Control & RKBA

hack89

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58. That is why we have cans of beans. nt

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Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:00 AM

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America's gun laws: madness sanctioned by history [View all] SecularMotion Aug 2012 OP

"the so-called Bill of Rights", eh? LOL...them brits are a laugh a minute.. pipoman Aug 2012 #1

No kidding Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #26

deserves a big rec, particularly this paragraph . . . DrDan Aug 2012 #2

P.A. Luty holdencaufield Aug 2012 #3

Unfortunately for you, hyperbole and non-factual assertions are meaningless. n/t PavePusher Aug 2012 #13

LOL Your post is the very definition of hyperbole. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #14

"non-factual"? DrDan Aug 2012 #25

Prove it then. Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #31

This is a more rational piece than the gun owner propaganda we get here at DU. upaloopa Aug 2012 #4

Naturally, no mention of the fact Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #5

Guns certainly enable violence, and help cowards intimidate others (Zimmerman as example). Hoyt Aug 2012 #6

And doors help keep the police out. Ban all doors. Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #7

So why is it states with higher rates of gun ownership 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #11

Actually, look at southern states -- they have highest rates of gun ownership AND violent crime. Hoyt Aug 2012 #44

And western states have the highest rate of gun ownership and lowest rates of crime 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #49

Your citation completely refutes your claim. Read the dang thing before offering it as "proof." Hoyt Aug 2012 #50

How does "no direct causal relationship" refute my claims when I'm claiming that 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #51

Your post #11 said states with higher rates of gun ownership don't have higher rates violent crime. Hoyt Aug 2012 #52

Some states with high gun ownership rates have high crime rates 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #53

My theory is guns in public - snd the crud that go with them - are bad for society. Hoyt Aug 2012 #55

Great. Now what comes after formulating a hypothesis? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #57

Don't have time now to splain everything to you. What do guns in your pants contribute to society? Hoyt Aug 2012 #59

So you reject the scientific method 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #61

"Scientific Method" is seldom applicable to politics and issues impacting society's future. Hoyt Aug 2012 #63

I guess some things just don't have to be studied for you to "know" they're true 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #64

Correct, I don't need a study to tell me "throwing virgins in volcano does not appease gods." Hoyt Aug 2012 #65

Ahahahahahaha 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #66

"the "Wild West" wasn't all that bloody" - Really? By whose standards? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #15

that wasn't because of gejohnston Aug 2012 #16

Right. That doesn't make it violent when the army does it. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #20

you missed the point gejohnston Aug 2012 #24

No, I don't miss the point. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #29

in your opinion gejohnston Aug 2012 #32

I live in the "Wild West", I have my whole life, from Wichita to Midland to Denver. Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #33

And how do I think it was, according to you? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #38

You sure do seem to buy into "Hollywood's version", hook line and sinker. Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #40

The gangs and contract killers had better gejohnston Aug 2012 #41

Gun carriers aren't living or perpetuating any myth. Nor are they extremists. NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #37

Not all gun carriers are extremists, but indiscriminate carrying is extreme behavior. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #39

I think I understand better, then. NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #42

I don't consider the simple act of carrying extreme either. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #71

Cowboys had enough sense to require folks to turn in their guns before going into a bar. Hoyt Aug 2012 #46

The 'cowboys' weren't requiring anything. Jenoch Aug 2012 #67

Fact is, they didn't go into bars armed --who gives a crud about whether it was cowboys, or elected Hoyt Aug 2012 #68

If that's true why did so many shootings happen in bars? Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #69

You made a factual error. I simply corrected it. Jenoch Aug 2012 #70

Lots of things are legal, but immoral and an affront to society. Hoyt Aug 2012 #72

I strongly agree with you. Jenoch Aug 2012 #73

I bet you do. Hoyt Aug 2012 #79

I agree gejohnston Aug 2012 #74

In my view,toting falls right in their with displaying swastikas,, confederate flags,greedy Hoyt Aug 2012 #80

Indeed, guns in the hands of an organized military force can be quite dangerous 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #19

So that makes genocide OK if they were wearing uniforms? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #22

I don't know if they give out awards for strawmen 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #23

"Can you acknowledge the historical fact that civilian gun ownership wasn't a major contributor.." EX500rider Aug 2012 #56

The point, as I read it... NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #43

Firearms for self defense are indeed a lot like fire extinguishers and spare tires ... spin Aug 2012 #75

Don't you not see how absurd that statement is? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #81

Of course you can use a fire extinquisher for self defense ... spin Aug 2012 #82

uk blogs... relevent to US rights? ileus Aug 2012 #8

Relevant to leading the way to sanity and away from arrogant stupidity. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #17

If by sanity Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #27

Sorry, I have no idea what your post means. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #30

He means Missycim Aug 2012 #34

That is why we have cans of beans. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #58

Or we can always use a can of beans! (n/t) spin Aug 2012 #76

Well Said... ileus Aug 2012 #54

I wonder what the OP thinks about this opinion Jenoch Aug 2012 #9

I think he agrees... NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #45

You can't ask him/her otherwise you will be called a stalker rl6214 Aug 2012 #83

I think the special forces would be pretty upset if they had to carry 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #10

28 Gun Crimes Commited Daily in UK holdencaufield Aug 2012 #12

How many dead? How many were real guns? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #18

most probably were real guns gejohnston Aug 2012 #21

Anyone can get a gun if they don't mind facing the consequences if caught with it. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #28

Did you actually think before you Missycim Aug 2012 #35

Consider murderers who are facing life in prison or possibly the death penalty 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #36

That last one would actually make me pretty angry. NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #47

Chances are if you go on a killing spree you'll at least get a wikipedia page 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #48

So-called Bill of Rights? Clames Aug 2012 #60

So called Bill of Rights. glacierbay Aug 2012 #62

The Brits are concerned? They should be concerned with England and Wales, and the great number AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #77

This is quite disturbing considering that England is only a little bigger in landmass than rDigital Aug 2012 #78