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63. I have said here before ...
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 03:59 AM
Aug 2012

If the NRA endorses Mitt Romney who is NO friend of gun owners, I will cancel my membership.

If you want more Democrats to win election, I would suggest that you stop trying the push the Democratic party to support unusually strong gun control. Instead work to improve and better enforce existing gun laws.

In a few years many gun owners and those who don't own firearms but support RKBA will seriously consider rejoining or joining our party as we are right on almost every other issue.

President Obama has a very fair approach to gun control.

President Obama: We must seek agreement on gun reforms
March 13, 2011 12:00 am • President Barack Obama Special To The Arizona Daily Star

***snip***

• First, we should begin by enforcing laws that are already on the books. The National Instant Criminal Background Check System is the filter that's supposed to stop the wrong people from getting their hands on a gun. Bipartisan legislation four years ago was supposed to strengthen this system, but it hasn't been properly implemented. It relies on data supplied by states - but that data is often incomplete and inadequate. We must do better.

• Second, we should in fact reward the states that provide the best data - and therefore do the most to protect our citizens.

• Third, we should make the system faster and nimbler. We should provide an instant, accurate, comprehensive and consistent system for background checks to sellers who want to do the right thing, and make sure that criminals can't escape it.

***snip***

Clearly, there's more we can do to prevent gun violence. But I want this to at least be the beginning of a new discussion on how we can keep America safe for all our people.
http://azstarnet.com/article_011e7118-8951-5206-a878-39bfbc9dc89d.html


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Also, there are no legal civilian handguns in Russia, but their murder rate is over 3x the USA. nt rDigital Aug 2012 #1
Interesting! jpbollma Aug 2012 #2
If you like numbers about the entire world.... rDigital Aug 2012 #3
Very interesting. glacierbay Aug 2012 #4
LOL. This again! The stupidity has no limits. DanTex Aug 2012 #5
When you wash away all the dirt rDigital Aug 2012 #6
LOL. I highly doubt that you know how to calculate a correlation. DanTex Aug 2012 #10
i seen you on other threads as well MrDiaz Aug 2012 #41
Facebook.com/guncontrolkills is a site that romanticizes the Ruby Ridge killers...eom Kolesar Aug 2012 #28
FBI snipers? nt Union Scribe Aug 2012 #58
So in short: this is pseudo-social science for National Review types. ellisonz Aug 2012 #7
Prove it wrong. I've provided an easy avenue for you to do so. FYI: you can't : ) rDigital Aug 2012 #8
I have better things to do than read 40 pages of rubbish. ellisonz Aug 2012 #11
I did prove it wrong. DanTex Aug 2012 #12
Ah, if only you could see through your side's BS as well n/t krispos42 Aug 2012 #50
although his copy and pasted rant has one major error gejohnston Aug 2012 #9
Yes, I did copy and pasted an old post of mine. DanTex Aug 2012 #13
Bottom-line: they over-estimated "DGU"'s ellisonz Aug 2012 #15
that is not what Kleck's study said gejohnston Aug 2012 #19
Umm... ellisonz Aug 2012 #20
up to gejohnston Aug 2012 #22
So his words do not mean what they say? ellisonz Aug 2012 #24
They over-estimated DGUs by a large factor. DanTex Aug 2012 #21
man that is a pretty substance free rant gejohnston Aug 2012 #23
Dodge. DanTex Aug 2012 #25
Bookmarked. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #27
I believe a DGU included people... krispos42 Aug 2012 #51
Exactly. But look how they are lapping it up! DanTex Aug 2012 #14
"There is no correlation between gun control and crime." ellisonz Aug 2012 #16
I see you've encountered our new crop of gungeon trolls. DanTex Aug 2012 #17
Funny how that works... ellisonz Aug 2012 #18
"This place really needs to be shut down like a restaurant with a rat problem." Aww, poor you. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #32
You're not Deputy Zampolit of DU and never will be. Get over yourself. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #36
"This place really needs to be shut down like a restaurant with a rat problem." TPaine7 Aug 2012 #42
So those who have a different view than yours are crazy? spin Aug 2012 #47
People with crazy views are crazy. ellisonz Aug 2012 #53
although crazy is a value judgement that means nothing gejohnston Aug 2012 #55
"What is the difference you see in the run of the mill Democratic (or independent for that matter)" ellisonz Aug 2012 #57
In other words... beevul Aug 2013 #72
I contend that the GOP would not have been able to win the election ... spin Aug 2012 #59
You're actually answering your own question and proving my point with this sentence. ellisonz Aug 2012 #62
I have said here before ... spin Aug 2012 #63
You have invited me to leave forums/threads before. Straw Man Aug 2012 #54
Ignored. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #56
Don't mind him. Union Scribe Aug 2012 #60
Cool down, pardner. You got your safe haven. Why you wanna ban open debate? Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #70
You can always go back to Castle Bansalot hack89 Aug 2013 #74
thanks for the reasoned reply to this pseudo-intellectual garbage samsingh Aug 2012 #26
a reasoned reply to pseudo intellectual garbage gejohnston Aug 2012 #29
mirror samsingh Aug 2012 #34
I never claimed to be an academic or gejohnston Aug 2012 #38
It's hard call to me. no_hypocrisy Aug 2012 #30
everyone agrees with regulation gejohnston Aug 2012 #33
If the Brady Law re assault weapons has expired, I'd like it returned. no_hypocrisy Aug 2012 #35
the AWB didn't actually ban anything gejohnston Aug 2012 #37
OK no_hypocrisy Aug 2012 #40
Wash all of the dirt away and rDigital Aug 2012 #31
Yeah, you already said that, but the problem is, it's simply not true. DanTex Aug 2012 #39
There's no correlation in your articles, just obfuscation and misinterpretation. rDigital Aug 2012 #43
Umm... that fact that you personally don't understand something... DanTex Aug 2012 #44
There is such a thing an peer reviewed garbage science rDigital Aug 2012 #45
And why is it garbage science? Because you disagree with it? DanTex Aug 2012 #46
You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your on facts. rDigital Aug 2012 #48
The lights are on but there's nobody home. DanTex Aug 2012 #49
It sounds like you better get home and turn off those lights. rDigital Aug 2012 #52
So does that smiley mean you think global warming is a hoax? DanTex Aug 2012 #64
It means you should turn off those lights, before it's too late! rDigital Aug 2012 #65
Dodge. Why won't you answer the question? DanTex Aug 2012 #66
Cuz, you ain't tha boss-a-me, son. Turn off them lights. rDigital Aug 2012 #67
LOL. Scared to even answer a simple question! OK then... DanTex Aug 2012 #68
Although some have rejected the observation re Russia, it might be worthwhile to focus upon England AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #61
Look at the source Patriot451 Aug 2013 #69
the idea that differences in gun laws gejohnston Aug 2013 #71
blaming the vaccine, not the disease jimmy the one Sep 2013 #75
Kates is hardly a "gun guru" gejohnston Sep 2013 #76
Gun control kills.... ileus Aug 2013 #73
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