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"the so-called Bill of Rights", eh? LOL...them brits are a laugh a minute.. pipoman Aug 2012 #1
No kidding Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #26
deserves a big rec, particularly this paragraph . . . DrDan Aug 2012 #2
P.A. Luty holdencaufield Aug 2012 #3
Unfortunately for you, hyperbole and non-factual assertions are meaningless. n/t PavePusher Aug 2012 #13
LOL Your post is the very definition of hyperbole. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #14
"non-factual"? DrDan Aug 2012 #25
Prove it then. Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #31
This is a more rational piece than the gun owner propaganda we get here at DU. upaloopa Aug 2012 #4
Naturally, no mention of the fact Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #5
Guns certainly enable violence, and help cowards intimidate others (Zimmerman as example). Hoyt Aug 2012 #6
And doors help keep the police out. Ban all doors. Glaug-Eldare Aug 2012 #7
So why is it states with higher rates of gun ownership 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #11
Actually, look at southern states -- they have highest rates of gun ownership AND violent crime. Hoyt Aug 2012 #44
And western states have the highest rate of gun ownership and lowest rates of crime 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #49
Your citation completely refutes your claim. Read the dang thing before offering it as "proof." Hoyt Aug 2012 #50
How does "no direct causal relationship" refute my claims when I'm claiming that 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #51
Your post #11 said states with higher rates of gun ownership don't have higher rates violent crime. Hoyt Aug 2012 #52
Some states with high gun ownership rates have high crime rates 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #53
My theory is guns in public - snd the crud that go with them - are bad for society. Hoyt Aug 2012 #55
Great. Now what comes after formulating a hypothesis? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #57
Don't have time now to splain everything to you. What do guns in your pants contribute to society? Hoyt Aug 2012 #59
So you reject the scientific method 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #61
"Scientific Method" is seldom applicable to politics and issues impacting society's future. Hoyt Aug 2012 #63
I guess some things just don't have to be studied for you to "know" they're true 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #64
Correct, I don't need a study to tell me "throwing virgins in volcano does not appease gods." Hoyt Aug 2012 #65
Ahahahahahaha 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #66
"the "Wild West" wasn't all that bloody" - Really? By whose standards? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #15
that wasn't because of gejohnston Aug 2012 #16
Right. That doesn't make it violent when the army does it. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #20
you missed the point gejohnston Aug 2012 #24
No, I don't miss the point. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #29
in your opinion gejohnston Aug 2012 #32
I live in the "Wild West", I have my whole life, from Wichita to Midland to Denver. Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #33
And how do I think it was, according to you? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #38
You sure do seem to buy into "Hollywood's version", hook line and sinker. Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #40
The gangs and contract killers had better gejohnston Aug 2012 #41
Gun carriers aren't living or perpetuating any myth. Nor are they extremists. NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #37
Not all gun carriers are extremists, but indiscriminate carrying is extreme behavior. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #39
I think I understand better, then. NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #42
I don't consider the simple act of carrying extreme either. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #71
Cowboys had enough sense to require folks to turn in their guns before going into a bar. Hoyt Aug 2012 #46
The 'cowboys' weren't requiring anything. Jenoch Aug 2012 #67
Fact is, they didn't go into bars armed --who gives a crud about whether it was cowboys, or elected Hoyt Aug 2012 #68
If that's true why did so many shootings happen in bars? Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #69
You made a factual error. I simply corrected it. Jenoch Aug 2012 #70
Lots of things are legal, but immoral and an affront to society. Hoyt Aug 2012 #72
I strongly agree with you. Jenoch Aug 2012 #73
I bet you do. Hoyt Aug 2012 #79
I agree gejohnston Aug 2012 #74
In my view,toting falls right in their with displaying swastikas,, confederate flags,greedy Hoyt Aug 2012 #80
Indeed, guns in the hands of an organized military force can be quite dangerous 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #19
So that makes genocide OK if they were wearing uniforms? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #22
I don't know if they give out awards for strawmen 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #23
"Can you acknowledge the historical fact that civilian gun ownership wasn't a major contributor.." EX500rider Aug 2012 #56
The point, as I read it... NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #43
Firearms for self defense are indeed a lot like fire extinguishers and spare tires ... spin Aug 2012 #75
Don't you not see how absurd that statement is? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #81
Of course you can use a fire extinquisher for self defense ... spin Aug 2012 #82
uk blogs... relevent to US rights? ileus Aug 2012 #8
Relevant to leading the way to sanity and away from arrogant stupidity. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #17
If by sanity Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #27
Sorry, I have no idea what your post means. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #30
He means Missycim Aug 2012 #34
That is why we have cans of beans. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #58
Or we can always use a can of beans! (n/t) spin Aug 2012 #76
Well Said... ileus Aug 2012 #54
I wonder what the OP thinks about this opinion Jenoch Aug 2012 #9
I think he agrees... NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #45
You can't ask him/her otherwise you will be called a stalker rl6214 Aug 2012 #83
I think the special forces would be pretty upset if they had to carry 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #10
28 Gun Crimes Commited Daily in UK holdencaufield Aug 2012 #12
How many dead? How many were real guns? Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #18
most probably were real guns gejohnston Aug 2012 #21
Anyone can get a gun if they don't mind facing the consequences if caught with it. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #28
Did you actually think before you Missycim Aug 2012 #35
Consider murderers who are facing life in prison or possibly the death penalty 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #36
That last one would actually make me pretty angry. NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #47
Chances are if you go on a killing spree you'll at least get a wikipedia page 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #48
So-called Bill of Rights? Clames Aug 2012 #60
So called Bill of Rights. glacierbay Aug 2012 #62
The Brits are concerned? They should be concerned with England and Wales, and the great number AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #77
This is quite disturbing considering that England is only a little bigger in landmass than rDigital Aug 2012 #78
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