Gun Control & RKBA

rl6214

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39. I'll wait...

Tue Aug 28, 2012, 02:42 PM

Aug 2012

i'm sure i can find more examples where someone shot people who were armed and couldn't

draw their guns fast enough.

and still more examples of armed people shooting back and hitting the wrong targets.

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Would tougher gun laws prevent criminals from getting and using firearms in the United States [View all] rDigital Aug 2012 OP

If you repeat an NRA talking point 100 times, will it suddenly become true? DanTex Aug 2012 #1

The numbers speak for themselves, sweetie. rDigital Aug 2012 #2

I thought the entire point Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #3

Facts are facts regardless of who points them out. spayneuter Aug 2012 #5

If you repeat 100 times that everything you don't agree with is an NRA Talking point CokeMachine Aug 2012 #6

How do you know those are NRA "talking points" Remmah2 Aug 2012 #8

I'm sure a member of the NRA leadership... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #14

What's the big deal with "talking points" as long as they're valid. Remmah2 Aug 2012 #15

Hold it! Stop. discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #16

I'm starting to see a pattern here. My spidey sense is tingling. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #56

You can't argue with "truthiness." n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #9

Are you saying the FBI and ATF are gejohnston Aug 2012 #10

Do you really think the rest of us... ellisonz Aug 2012 #23

As you noted a while back, gun nuts don't do multivariate analysis. DanTex Aug 2012 #24

Neither do you. Clames Dec 2012 #64

many if not most do. nt. gejohnston Aug 2012 #25

According to gunzzzz.com 7 out of every 5 gun owners have disrupted a child trafficking ring! DanTex Aug 2012 #19

New math??? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #21

NRA talking points brought to you by gejohnston Aug 2012 #11

Calling something a "talking point" is not a rebuttal. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #12

In practice... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #22

True. I ran into the same problem with this post, different anti. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #26

+1 :) n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #30

It is if the "point" can be labeled with the "N" word... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #68

No, absolutely not. discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #13

If you ignore what is actually fact, will it suddenly stop being true? rl6214 Aug 2012 #48

Well, Jamaica (less than 500 miles from the US) has what amounts to a total gun ban and is awash spayneuter Aug 2012 #4

According to the Gun-Prohibitionists countries like Jamaica don't count rDigital Aug 2012 #17

Oh, well I figured there must be -some- mitigating factor. Arrgh. spayneuter Aug 2012 #29

"Prevent" is the wrong word here - no level of stringency will prevent petronius Aug 2012 #7

I support such ideas such as you suggest ... spin Aug 2012 #18

i believe you're asked the right question here and i believe there should be other helpful things samsingh Aug 2012 #27

This makes more sense, and is a regular topic of discussion here. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #69

The problem is a lack of enforcement, not a lack of laws. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #20

would law enforcement have stopped the gun massacre in Co? samsingh Aug 2012 #28

control is a myth discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #31

the benefits of guns is a myth and the rest of us are subjected to pseudo arguments samsingh Aug 2012 #34

Yeah, I see your point. I think you should tell that to these people. rl6214 Aug 2012 #35

i'm sure i can find more examples where someone shot people who were armed and couldn't samsingh Aug 2012 #37

I'll wait... rl6214 Aug 2012 #39

I'm still waiting for Sam's examples... All I hear is crickets. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #57

The Silence of No Response is deafening. n/t DWC Sep 2012 #58

Are we still waiting... PavePusher Dec 2012 #62

CCWers shooting back and hitting the wrong target is rare. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #43

"...pseudo arguments" discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #36

the one's i'm getting back samsingh Aug 2012 #38

Characterizing an argument... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2012 #40

savor away. samsingh Aug 2012 #41

Probably, if they had been there. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #33

where there is a will there is a way. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #32

Good Question wolfman24 Aug 2012 #42

Welcome to DU. I wouldn't be surprised if you do get flamed, though... DanTex Aug 2012 #44

Falsely accusing those who disagree with you on one thing gejohnston Aug 2012 #47

My type of guns are OK but yours aren't. rl6214 Aug 2012 #49

Question for you. oneshooter Aug 2012 #50

Maybe some like these: AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #52

Welcome to the Gungeon DWC Sep 2012 #60

Award-winning lifelong liberal Dem criminologist seems to agree with you. Simo 1939_1940 Aug 2012 #45

The results of the poll are fascinating. ... spin Aug 2012 #46

Well that guy from Canada hasn't posted yet. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #53

This is not a zero sum game. It is not all one way or upaloopa Aug 2012 #51

It seem you're part of the "passsomethingnowwegottadosomethingrightnowomfg" crowd. The world rDigital Sep 2012 #59

Some actual difference but probably statistically null over any foreseeable time frame. TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #54

This poll speaks for itself. : ) read em' n weep rDigital Aug 2012 #55

*bump* rDigital Dec 2012 #61

wow. where did all the voters come from. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #63

No, of course not. The question itself is ridiculous. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #65

The poll is a puff piece for sure, but the numbers are surely interesting for the rDigital Dec 2012 #66

It demonstrates that they are a small minority. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #67

I agree. : ) nt rDigital Dec 2012 #70