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13. Exactly right: I doubt you could find a handful - IF THAT - of CA adminstrators willing to sign such

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 06:20 PM

Sep 2012

letters for all sorts of reasons, including liability. Also, most California university administrators are progressives and liberals, and don't buy into the NRA/GOP agenda.

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Good news on the gun front, for a change. Thanks. n/t pnwmom Sep 2012 #1

Good news for whom? NewMoonTherian Sep 2012 #3

I disagree. With the rate of binge drinking on college campuses pnwmom Sep 2012 #5

the sterotype is gejohnston Sep 2012 #8

IF there is binge under-age drinking? You've got to be kidding. pnwmom Sep 2012 #18

in my experience gejohnston Sep 2012 #23

Alcohol use is higher among college students than it is among people of the same age pnwmom Sep 2012 #97

that is true with 18 year olds living in dorms gejohnston Sep 2012 #112

Why do any non-traditional students need to carry guns on campus? The vast majority pnwmom Sep 2012 #124

My first guess would be one of the exceptions in California law gejohnston Sep 2012 #130

I'm curious, was Wyoming restrictive on guns until recently? Or just on concealed carry? n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #132

Please cite those states/campuses and the rules that apply. PavePusher Sep 2012 #131

It is a rare 21+ age student who lives in a dorm. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #93

That's a common argument. NewMoonTherian Sep 2012 #12

That's not how it works, Moon. It is incumbent upon those who wish to change the established law apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #26

What is the problem your proposed solution is trying to solve? ManiacJoe Sep 2012 #49

I wasn't the one with the "problem": CA law FORBIDS concealed carry on campus save in apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #64

Is that how it works? NewMoonTherian Sep 2012 #54

That's how it works alrighty, in the real world. In pro-NRA land, I don't know or care how it "works apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #65

The civilized world has no problem... NewMoonTherian Sep 2012 #125

Restricting where firearms can be carried is hardly "destroying personal freedoms," but let's apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #127

Actually it doesn't work because it's legal, you're just subject to academic sanctions rDigital Sep 2012 #79

Actually it does work because carrying concealed weapons @ CA campuses is illegal. Educate yourself: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #128

That is bull shit. You can't take an incident or incidents and say that it proves anything. upaloopa Sep 2012 #126

Yep - but they think every time they throw up some huge block of statutory mumbo-jumbo apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #129

he highlighted the wrong part gejohnston Sep 2012 #4

Uh-huh. And the administrators are very unlikely to give it, pnwmom Sep 2012 #7

if you look at paragraph l gejohnston Sep 2012 #11

The part you referenced wasn't about civilians with concealed carry permits. pnwmom Sep 2012 #15

possibly gejohnston Sep 2012 #20

"Proven wrong"? Hardly: the poster in question has consitently REFUSED to provide substantiation of apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #24

which you tried to call him out gejohnston Sep 2012 #27

No: wrong again. The "burden of proof" is on the one *making the claim*, NOT on the one who asks apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #28

you questioned it as a personal attack gejohnston Sep 2012 #29

"questioned it as a personal attack" - Good grief, but that's some funny stuff there. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #32

you were attacking him as a person by questioning something he said about himself gejohnston Sep 2012 #37

No, I was not. He claims to be a "professor" authorized to tote guns around campus, and he was asked apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #39

Exactly right: I doubt you could find a handful - IF THAT - of CA adminstrators willing to sign such apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #13

Yes, this was in reply to an attempt to pretend that it was a wide open gun-totin' fest on apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #10

Good for 2 things, elleng Sep 2012 #2

read the rest of it gejohnston Sep 2012 #6

The referenced exception doesn't apply to ordinary civilians with concealed carry licenses. pnwmom Sep 2012 #14

as far as I can tell it applies to private citizens (cops, other than military police) are civilians gejohnston Sep 2012 #17

And the administration is extremely unlikely to give such permission pnwmom Sep 2012 #19

depends on the administration of that school gejohnston Sep 2012 #21

The permission isn't required to be legal, just to avoid being fired/expelled. rDigital Sep 2012 #22

It's NOT "legal anyway": you need to read the OP before you post easily-disproved assertions apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #25

You're wrong. The exemption is plainly written in coded 626.9 rDigital Sep 2012 #30

I'm right, as the OP shows, all that irrelevant jazz you posted below notwithstanding. Try reading apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #33

I knew all the "California lets you carry guns all you want!!!" on campus silliness wasn't really apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #9

Thanks for the posting. n/t pnwmom Sep 2012 #16

It's not popular or accepted, but it's legal. rDigital Sep 2012 #31

It's not legal, as shown in the OP. Please try again. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #34

Also, it's pretty rich running around DU accusing me of "stalking" then you post repeatedly in my OP apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #35

It's not legal to strut around a CA campus with a pistol perched in your pants: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #119

More info rDigital Sep 2012 #36

No, you are not "legal to carry" on campus, as the OP shows. Period. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #38

Some hack internet site for a law firm? They don't even provide answers, just assumptions because rDigital Sep 2012 #40

A respected law firm made up of former prosecutor's and police officers is hardly a "hack site," and apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #41

Prove that I'm wrong with the laws and codes, not assumptions. You can't do it, I've tried. rDigital Sep 2012 #43

It's already been proven, in the OP. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #45

Also, a matter await your attention in Meta: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #42

Cool, not interested. I like making you lose public arguments. It's worth letting you stalk and rDigital Sep 2012 #44

So, you make the claim you are being "stalked" but then show up in MY OP posting to me. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #46

So, now that the claim of being "stalked" has been shown to be bogus, I expect to see no more apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #47

The OP of this post is based on an issue you got absolutely thrashed on last night rDigital Sep 2012 #51

All nonsense, but regardless: the next time you accuse me of stalking you, it's going to the Admins. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #52

Nice transparency page, BTW. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #53

Actual useful info, as opposed to stuff that will get you arrested if you try it on a CA campus: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #114

Another article showing the Concealed Carry on Campus is only banned by school rules, not laws. rDigital Sep 2012 #48

That is blatantly FALSE: it shows *no* *such* *thing*. It is an opinion piece, not a factual apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #50

Not the law, the schools rules. Completely True. It's hard, I know. rDigital Sep 2012 #55

No, it's not true: CA law prohibits concealed carry on campus, and this article does not address the apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #56

I know that you're upset that your bogus OP giving phony legal advice has now been PROVEN apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #57

Facts showing that if you go onto a CA campus with a gun and get caught, you'll be arrested: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #115

Constantly repeating yourself does not make you any more right or less wrong.... PavePusher Sep 2012 #133

More good info on this subject. rDigital Sep 2012 #58

More bogus info, because if you carry a gun on a CA campus and get caught, you're getting arrested. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #60

Just because you keep repeating "A = ~A" won't make it true. Enjoy. rDigital Sep 2012 #61

What I "keep repeating" are FACTS you've been unable to refute. Funny stuff. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #63

Perhaps it's not sinking in. Let's try it again. I'll use your methods to help you. rDigital Sep 2012 #66

Asked & answered: the OP stands unrefuted, all the diversionary jazz and irrelevant nonsense to the apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #67

Using your same methods, I guess we have to try again. We can't give up too easy! rDigital Sep 2012 #68

Asked & answered: now you're just spamming. The OP stands unrefuted. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #70

BTW, just in case somebody's confused by this diversion about "open carry": it's a bogus apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #69

Using your own methods. I promise that I won't give up on you sweetie. Now with added umph!! rDigital Sep 2012 #71

Asked & answered: now you're just spamming. The OP stands unrefuted. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #72

I'm using your same tactics.... except I'm winning and RIGHT. OP HAS BEEN THRASHED!! rDigital Sep 2012 #73

The OP is spot-on: all of your spamming and diversionary nonsense notwithstanding. Cap-locks tell apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #74

No it's just more fun to use caps and your own tactics to prove a point. You're wrong and then some rDigital Sep 2012 #75

Nope: quite right, all your spamming notwithstanding. The reason your spamming is that the facts are apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #77

More good info showing that if you carry a gun on a CA campus, you'll be arrested: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #116

More anecdotal evidence just to sweeten the pot when this is all over. rDigital Sep 2012 #59

It already is "over": I've posted and quoted the LAW; all you've put up is an anonymous post apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #62

You have no understanding of the subject at hand. The law has to ban it. The law ALLOWs it. rDigital Sep 2012 #76

You're right: the law bans it. First thing you got right all night. Thanks for confirming the OP! apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #78

626.9 specifically exempts those with a CCW permit. Nice try. OP THRASHED. rDigital Sep 2012 #80

The OP is spot-on: sorry that it ruined your bogus post about CA campus concealed carry. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #82

Completely wrong: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #86

That part that you are posting is the lawyer site. It does not exist in the law. You have not read rDigital Sep 2012 #91

See the actual *relevant* portion of the law here: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #95

You know for a fact that isn't in the actual law. rDigital Sep 2012 #101

I know for a fact that this is what is relevant to CA concealed carry on campus: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #102

Extrapolate that paragraph, because I have and it doesn't say what you think it does. Go look up rDigital Sep 2012 #106

No need. Read here: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #108

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it smart." rDigital Sep 2012 #111

And carrying a gun onto a CA campus will get you arrested, if you get caught: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #113

Ain't facts grand! See the actual RELEVANT section of the law here: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #99

Posting "A = ~A" is not going to help your case any. Campus carry is legal in California with a CCW rDigital Sep 2012 #81

No, it is not, save in very limited circumstances. The OP stands unrefuted. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #83

It's ok to be wrong. You are allowed to fall. That's when we pick ourselves back up. rDigital Sep 2012 #84

As you've demonstrated, as you have been proven wrong by this OP. Fun stuff. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #85

I'm just using your method to convince you. See how well it works? It's great rDigital Sep 2012 #87

So, you concede that you are not actually factually correct, but rather just in this thread to stir apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #89

Asked & answered: it is not legal to carry a gun onto a CA campus save in very limited circumstances apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #90

No, "carry" is not legal, save in very limited circumstances. You are still peddling bad advice. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #88

All you need is a Cali CCW and prefeably a note from admins to keep you out of scholastic hot water rDigital Sep 2012 #94

Nope; the actual RELEVANT portion of the law is here: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #96

See the relevant law - the REAL law, not some blog post on a RW site somewhere - here: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #92

That's not the law. Here is 626.9 rDigital Sep 2012 #98

Here's the relevant part of the law: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #100

You're shooting blanks over there. That's not in the law. That's a bunk interpretation. Not rDigital Sep 2012 #104

Nope. Again: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #105

Yet *another* post not from a legal source, but from a Right-wing website. Niiiiiice.... apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #107

Who knew? In California: You can carry a gun in College with a Concealed Carry License rDigital Sep 2012 #109

No, you cannot: that's very bad legal advice, and false to boot. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #110

Here's some more help with that false assertion in your reply - enjoy! apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #120

Posting facts is such fun! Here's some showing you'll be arrested if try to "CCW" on a CA campus: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #117

It Should. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #103

I agree 100%. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #122

Well, no-one's ever claimed it was. PavePusher Sep 2012 #134

here is a question gejohnston Sep 2012 #118

That is actually a good observation and question - this popped up on a lot of other legal sites apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #123

Wow... still worryin' this useless bone huh? cherokeeprogressive Sep 2012 #121

I'm self-deleting this for now because I will not be able to attend to the OP apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #135