Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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130. My first guess would be one of the exceptions in California law

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 09:46 PM

Sep 2012

are those who have a restraining order on some asshole ex. I doubt few if any actually would. A lot of things are legal but not customary. In Wyoming and most states it is perfectly legal open carry and always was. It is simply not done, and wasn't customary even before it became a state. Now that Wyoming concealed carry went from kind of like NYC, but more fair, to Vermont light, I don't know anyone who actually does carry concealed. If escape from Florida and go home, I most likely wouldn't either. Why bother if you are either in Mayberry or the woods? Florida allows it as long as you have a fishing pole in your hand. Nobody does, other than some guy on Youtube trying to get a cop in trouble.
I don't have a CCW, and I don't carry for protection. That said, if I got a job working at a planned parenthood or as an escort for a women's health clinic, you better believe I would.
Depends on the roommate. If it is another Wyoming hick that brought his target or hunting stuff, they would have something in common. If you are talking about some asshole, not so much. Have to remember, I grew up in a culture that views guns differently than you might have.

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Good news on the gun front, for a change. Thanks. n/t pnwmom Sep 2012 #1

Good news for whom? NewMoonTherian Sep 2012 #3

I disagree. With the rate of binge drinking on college campuses pnwmom Sep 2012 #5

the sterotype is gejohnston Sep 2012 #8

IF there is binge under-age drinking? You've got to be kidding. pnwmom Sep 2012 #18

in my experience gejohnston Sep 2012 #23

Alcohol use is higher among college students than it is among people of the same age pnwmom Sep 2012 #97

that is true with 18 year olds living in dorms gejohnston Sep 2012 #112

Why do any non-traditional students need to carry guns on campus? The vast majority pnwmom Sep 2012 #124

My first guess would be one of the exceptions in California law gejohnston Sep 2012 #130

I'm curious, was Wyoming restrictive on guns until recently? Or just on concealed carry? n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #132

Please cite those states/campuses and the rules that apply. PavePusher Sep 2012 #131

It is a rare 21+ age student who lives in a dorm. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #93

That's a common argument. NewMoonTherian Sep 2012 #12

That's not how it works, Moon. It is incumbent upon those who wish to change the established law apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #26

What is the problem your proposed solution is trying to solve? ManiacJoe Sep 2012 #49

I wasn't the one with the "problem": CA law FORBIDS concealed carry on campus save in apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #64

Is that how it works? NewMoonTherian Sep 2012 #54

That's how it works alrighty, in the real world. In pro-NRA land, I don't know or care how it "works apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #65

The civilized world has no problem... NewMoonTherian Sep 2012 #125

Restricting where firearms can be carried is hardly "destroying personal freedoms," but let's apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #127

Actually it doesn't work because it's legal, you're just subject to academic sanctions rDigital Sep 2012 #79

Actually it does work because carrying concealed weapons @ CA campuses is illegal. Educate yourself: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #128

That is bull shit. You can't take an incident or incidents and say that it proves anything. upaloopa Sep 2012 #126

Yep - but they think every time they throw up some huge block of statutory mumbo-jumbo apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #129

he highlighted the wrong part gejohnston Sep 2012 #4

Uh-huh. And the administrators are very unlikely to give it, pnwmom Sep 2012 #7

if you look at paragraph l gejohnston Sep 2012 #11

The part you referenced wasn't about civilians with concealed carry permits. pnwmom Sep 2012 #15

possibly gejohnston Sep 2012 #20

"Proven wrong"? Hardly: the poster in question has consitently REFUSED to provide substantiation of apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #24

which you tried to call him out gejohnston Sep 2012 #27

No: wrong again. The "burden of proof" is on the one *making the claim*, NOT on the one who asks apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #28

you questioned it as a personal attack gejohnston Sep 2012 #29

"questioned it as a personal attack" - Good grief, but that's some funny stuff there. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #32

you were attacking him as a person by questioning something he said about himself gejohnston Sep 2012 #37

No, I was not. He claims to be a "professor" authorized to tote guns around campus, and he was asked apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #39

Exactly right: I doubt you could find a handful - IF THAT - of CA adminstrators willing to sign such apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #13

Yes, this was in reply to an attempt to pretend that it was a wide open gun-totin' fest on apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #10

Good for 2 things, elleng Sep 2012 #2

read the rest of it gejohnston Sep 2012 #6

The referenced exception doesn't apply to ordinary civilians with concealed carry licenses. pnwmom Sep 2012 #14

as far as I can tell it applies to private citizens (cops, other than military police) are civilians gejohnston Sep 2012 #17

And the administration is extremely unlikely to give such permission pnwmom Sep 2012 #19

depends on the administration of that school gejohnston Sep 2012 #21

The permission isn't required to be legal, just to avoid being fired/expelled. rDigital Sep 2012 #22

It's NOT "legal anyway": you need to read the OP before you post easily-disproved assertions apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #25

You're wrong. The exemption is plainly written in coded 626.9 rDigital Sep 2012 #30

I'm right, as the OP shows, all that irrelevant jazz you posted below notwithstanding. Try reading apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #33

I knew all the "California lets you carry guns all you want!!!" on campus silliness wasn't really apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #9

Thanks for the posting. n/t pnwmom Sep 2012 #16

It's not popular or accepted, but it's legal. rDigital Sep 2012 #31

It's not legal, as shown in the OP. Please try again. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #34

Also, it's pretty rich running around DU accusing me of "stalking" then you post repeatedly in my OP apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #35

It's not legal to strut around a CA campus with a pistol perched in your pants: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #119

More info rDigital Sep 2012 #36

No, you are not "legal to carry" on campus, as the OP shows. Period. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #38

Some hack internet site for a law firm? They don't even provide answers, just assumptions because rDigital Sep 2012 #40

A respected law firm made up of former prosecutor's and police officers is hardly a "hack site," and apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #41

Prove that I'm wrong with the laws and codes, not assumptions. You can't do it, I've tried. rDigital Sep 2012 #43

It's already been proven, in the OP. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #45

Also, a matter await your attention in Meta: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #42

Cool, not interested. I like making you lose public arguments. It's worth letting you stalk and rDigital Sep 2012 #44

So, you make the claim you are being "stalked" but then show up in MY OP posting to me. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #46

So, now that the claim of being "stalked" has been shown to be bogus, I expect to see no more apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #47

The OP of this post is based on an issue you got absolutely thrashed on last night rDigital Sep 2012 #51

All nonsense, but regardless: the next time you accuse me of stalking you, it's going to the Admins. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #52

Nice transparency page, BTW. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #53

Actual useful info, as opposed to stuff that will get you arrested if you try it on a CA campus: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #114

Another article showing the Concealed Carry on Campus is only banned by school rules, not laws. rDigital Sep 2012 #48

That is blatantly FALSE: it shows *no* *such* *thing*. It is an opinion piece, not a factual apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #50

Not the law, the schools rules. Completely True. It's hard, I know. rDigital Sep 2012 #55

No, it's not true: CA law prohibits concealed carry on campus, and this article does not address the apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #56

I know that you're upset that your bogus OP giving phony legal advice has now been PROVEN apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #57

Facts showing that if you go onto a CA campus with a gun and get caught, you'll be arrested: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #115

Constantly repeating yourself does not make you any more right or less wrong.... PavePusher Sep 2012 #133

More good info on this subject. rDigital Sep 2012 #58

More bogus info, because if you carry a gun on a CA campus and get caught, you're getting arrested. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #60

Just because you keep repeating "A = ~A" won't make it true. Enjoy. rDigital Sep 2012 #61

What I "keep repeating" are FACTS you've been unable to refute. Funny stuff. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #63

Perhaps it's not sinking in. Let's try it again. I'll use your methods to help you. rDigital Sep 2012 #66

Asked & answered: the OP stands unrefuted, all the diversionary jazz and irrelevant nonsense to the apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #67

Using your same methods, I guess we have to try again. We can't give up too easy! rDigital Sep 2012 #68

Asked & answered: now you're just spamming. The OP stands unrefuted. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #70

BTW, just in case somebody's confused by this diversion about "open carry": it's a bogus apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #69

Using your own methods. I promise that I won't give up on you sweetie. Now with added umph!! rDigital Sep 2012 #71

Asked & answered: now you're just spamming. The OP stands unrefuted. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #72

I'm using your same tactics.... except I'm winning and RIGHT. OP HAS BEEN THRASHED!! rDigital Sep 2012 #73

The OP is spot-on: all of your spamming and diversionary nonsense notwithstanding. Cap-locks tell apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #74

No it's just more fun to use caps and your own tactics to prove a point. You're wrong and then some rDigital Sep 2012 #75

Nope: quite right, all your spamming notwithstanding. The reason your spamming is that the facts are apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #77

More good info showing that if you carry a gun on a CA campus, you'll be arrested: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #116

More anecdotal evidence just to sweeten the pot when this is all over. rDigital Sep 2012 #59

It already is "over": I've posted and quoted the LAW; all you've put up is an anonymous post apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #62

You have no understanding of the subject at hand. The law has to ban it. The law ALLOWs it. rDigital Sep 2012 #76

You're right: the law bans it. First thing you got right all night. Thanks for confirming the OP! apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #78

626.9 specifically exempts those with a CCW permit. Nice try. OP THRASHED. rDigital Sep 2012 #80

The OP is spot-on: sorry that it ruined your bogus post about CA campus concealed carry. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #82

Completely wrong: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #86

That part that you are posting is the lawyer site. It does not exist in the law. You have not read rDigital Sep 2012 #91

See the actual *relevant* portion of the law here: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #95

You know for a fact that isn't in the actual law. rDigital Sep 2012 #101

I know for a fact that this is what is relevant to CA concealed carry on campus: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #102

Extrapolate that paragraph, because I have and it doesn't say what you think it does. Go look up rDigital Sep 2012 #106

No need. Read here: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #108

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it smart." rDigital Sep 2012 #111

And carrying a gun onto a CA campus will get you arrested, if you get caught: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #113

Ain't facts grand! See the actual RELEVANT section of the law here: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #99

Posting "A = ~A" is not going to help your case any. Campus carry is legal in California with a CCW rDigital Sep 2012 #81

No, it is not, save in very limited circumstances. The OP stands unrefuted. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #83

It's ok to be wrong. You are allowed to fall. That's when we pick ourselves back up. rDigital Sep 2012 #84

As you've demonstrated, as you have been proven wrong by this OP. Fun stuff. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #85

I'm just using your method to convince you. See how well it works? It's great rDigital Sep 2012 #87

So, you concede that you are not actually factually correct, but rather just in this thread to stir apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #89

Asked & answered: it is not legal to carry a gun onto a CA campus save in very limited circumstances apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #90

No, "carry" is not legal, save in very limited circumstances. You are still peddling bad advice. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #88

All you need is a Cali CCW and prefeably a note from admins to keep you out of scholastic hot water rDigital Sep 2012 #94

Nope; the actual RELEVANT portion of the law is here: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #96

See the relevant law - the REAL law, not some blog post on a RW site somewhere - here: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #92

That's not the law. Here is 626.9 rDigital Sep 2012 #98

Here's the relevant part of the law: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #100

You're shooting blanks over there. That's not in the law. That's a bunk interpretation. Not rDigital Sep 2012 #104

Nope. Again: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #105

Yet *another* post not from a legal source, but from a Right-wing website. Niiiiiice.... apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #107

Who knew? In California: You can carry a gun in College with a Concealed Carry License rDigital Sep 2012 #109

No, you cannot: that's very bad legal advice, and false to boot. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #110

Here's some more help with that false assertion in your reply - enjoy! apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #120

Posting facts is such fun! Here's some showing you'll be arrested if try to "CCW" on a CA campus: apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #117

It Should. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #103

I agree 100%. n/t. apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #122

Well, no-one's ever claimed it was. PavePusher Sep 2012 #134

here is a question gejohnston Sep 2012 #118

That is actually a good observation and question - this popped up on a lot of other legal sites apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #123

Wow... still worryin' this useless bone huh? cherokeeprogressive Sep 2012 #121

I'm self-deleting this for now because I will not be able to attend to the OP apocalypsehow Sep 2012 #135