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Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
8. Let the juries handle it.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 08:07 AM
Sep 2012

Juries is the way the owners of this web site have decided to handle the majority of alerted posts. Almost certainly this was done to automate the moderation process and offload the workload from moderators and to eliminate personality problems from driving the conversation.

Let the people decide. It doesn't get much more Democratic than that. What you are asking for is, quite literally, a dictator to dictate how the forum will be used. If people are apathetic, then Democracy will suffer, but that is still better than a dictator(s).

This is Democratic Underground. Side with democracy!

The forbiddance of "Google dumps" of two varieties:

V1: "Gunman kills everyone"
V2: "Gunman saves everyone"

These types of Google Dumps are deposited, so to speak, with one purpose and one purpose alone: To show why the other side is wrong through anecdotal evidence. Barring a tragedy on the scale of Aurora or Columbine (Which are current events that may lead to policy change regarding the Second Amendment), these Dumps do little more than provide an outlet for one side or the other to simply say "I told you so.


The problem here is that anecdotes work for the pro-gun side, but do not work for the anti-gun side.

Why?

Virtually no one advocates that everyone should be armed or that guns are a guaranteed ticket to success in self-defense or defense against tyranny.

But anti-gun advocates frequently advocate that all guns are useless and do not belong in the hands of civilians at all.

All it takes is one single anecdote to disprove the anti-gun theory.

For example, on this forum we have heard it said that no one could ever use a gun successfully in self-defense against a criminal who surprises their victim. Yet in fact examples have been provided that show that in fact this does happen. We've been told that guns are just penis substitutes by people who just dream about killing someone. A single example of a world-renown female Olympic shooter puts that theory down also.

The bottom line is, anti-gun people post anecdotes to try and prove a trend, which they cannot. Pro-gun people post anecdotes to disprove incorrect theories, which they absolutely can.

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A slightly different approach: MercutioATC Sep 2012 #1
Outstanding post. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #2
Perhaps we could ban the term safeinOhio Sep 2012 #24
Thanks for the work but rrneck Sep 2012 #3
+1 MercutioATC Sep 2012 #4
For what it's worth ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #5
but first gejohnston Sep 2012 #6
Agreed ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #7
Let the juries handle it. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #8
I agree: let the juries handle it. DanTex Sep 2012 #9
All tha science rrneck Sep 2012 #11
Tell it brother! Grover Norquist would be so proud! DanTex Sep 2012 #14
LOL! rrneck Sep 2012 #18
Umm... Grover is a right-wing NRA board member. In other words, right up your alley. DanTex Sep 2012 #21
Sooooooo, rrneck Sep 2012 #25
Like I said.. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #13
Science, statistics and peer reviewed studies are irrelevant! This keeps getting better! DanTex Sep 2012 #15
they are if you don't like the results gejohnston Sep 2012 #16
In the context of the 2nd Amendment, it is indeed irrelevant. eqfan592 Sep 2012 #17
You are as bad as the Republicans with their out-of-context "You didn't built it" bullshit. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #19
Juries made up of non-rkba posters shouldn't even be allowed here. ileus Sep 2012 #12
I agree. I wish our juries consisted only of our peers. Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2012 #20
I agree with you on Google dumps. nt hack89 Sep 2012 #10
Free Hoyt. n/t ellisonz Sep 2012 #22
still no justice for bupkus nt gejohnston Sep 2012 #23
Hey, that's my line... ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #26
I hate the way this is going to sound, but ManiacJoe Sep 2012 #28
By your definition, the posts about Aurora would be Google dumps ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #27
Sounds like you understand what is meant as a Google Dump. ManiacJoe Sep 2012 #29
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