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iverglas

(38,549 posts)
62. customs is a funny thing
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 01:19 PM
Jan 2012

As I mentioned, I grew up a two hour drive from the US border. Most people actually live closer than that, I just happened to be in the middle of southwestern Ontario between two Great Lakes -- so actually I was closer than that too, there was just no way of getting from here to there except Detroit ... but no, thinking about it, Port Huron was closer, so I was actually within that one-hour drive that most people are from the border.

When I was a kid, we crossed the border to camp in Florida on winter holiday, picnic in Marysville, Michigan, visit cousins in Dearborn, go away for a weekend somewhere new at a motel with an indoor pool in February -- two or three times a year.

We always packed food, and we had to be careful not to take Florida oranges with us. You can't import Florida oranges into the US.

We can buy codeine over the counter here (behind the counter; the pharmacist will sometimes check that you know about side effects). Not in the US. We had to check our purses and suitcases for any legally acquired, legally carried 222s we might have forgotten about.

Some of those forms probably get sent to anybody wanting import/export approval for anything -- although the fruits/vegetables is a bit odd, since it's only the US that controls that, I thought. We had no problem taking Florida oranges into Canada from the US.

The illegal wood is actually an important thing, if a bit odd here -- but when someone saw a picture of something made of wood, that was really the right thing to do. The only means available to control trafficking in protected species of plants and animals, sometimes, is for developed countries to enforce strict import controls on things entering those countries.

If your item had arrived at the border, and somebody had looked at it and said Eek, this crate is made of a protected species of rare South American rainforest maple, this is a serious offence under the International Convention on Trafficking in Protected Species of Rare South American Trees and the domestic legislation that implements that treaty, the Act to Implement the International Convention on Trafficking in Protected Species of Rare South American Trees, and proceeded to charge you and the museum with that offence -- well, you might have said Wait just a minute, nobody told ME about that stuff.

Kinda like that guy trying to check his gun in NYC.

Now some of them, okay. Import papers into the US, serial number ... but those are requirements of the relevant laws, so the explanation was needed. It might be reasonable for the laws to say something like "if the thing was imported into the US / manufactured after 1900" or some such.

Now, Canada does have some cultural heritage legislation that regulates the export of old stuff, but I guess the US doesn't -- because I'm actually surprised you didn't run into some rigamarole about exporting antiques.

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Glad they are catching criminals with their registry. Glassunion Jan 2012 #1
I just noticed this actually called for reply iverglas Jan 2012 #49
I agree. Glassunion Jan 2012 #54
in theory ... iverglas Jan 2012 #73
Yeah - that's fucking intelligent.... n/t We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #2
And some propane tanks look like atom bombs JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2012 #3
+1 on the beer. nt Remmah2 Jan 2012 #4
There are a lot of people that hunt and eat squirrel and rabbit rl6214 Jan 2012 #8
Yes, if they want it killed, tenderized, and shredded JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2012 #26
Someone forgot to tell Solomon... We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #18
Truely Orwellian.... PavePusher Jan 2012 #5
Canada is not a totalitarian state. ellisonz Jan 2012 #35
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #36
"carry weapons near our elected officials and wage war against government" PavePusher Jan 2012 #50
Don't tell me all those "milita" groups are training to fight Canadians. ellisonz Jan 2012 #51
well ... iverglas Jan 2012 #52
I'd like to apologize to Canada for the rampant anti-Canadianism that is perpetuated in this country ellisonz Jan 2012 #98
sniff iverglas Jan 2012 #101
I've heard Canada is "a lot like the U.S." This may be an indication... SteveW Jan 2012 #89
ah, my little hometown newspaper iverglas Jan 2012 #6
That's right, the courts are absolutly correct and absolutely absolute in their decisions. Remmah2 Jan 2012 #9
if you say so iverglas Jan 2012 #12
The Courts never change their rulings... ellisonz Jan 2012 #37
They look like an AK, but function totally differently. X_Digger Jan 2012 #15
the description in #10 iverglas Jan 2012 #21
I'd love to know whether the applicant's counsel tried to explain.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #28
just to point out iverglas Jan 2012 #31
So fed cabinet -> court -> court.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #33
have a look at the decision iverglas Jan 2012 #34
My God, civilized government... ellisonz Jan 2012 #38
so then, you are planning to leave Hawaii for Canada Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #64
Such hostility... ellisonz Jan 2012 #86
passive agressive behavior tends to bring that out in people that are paying attention. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #87
Well, my last girlfriend looked like Marilyn Monroe. Really. She did. nt SteveW Jan 2012 #90
Great example of legislation by fiat. The GG says it's so, therefore it's so. slackmaster Jan 2012 #23
snork iverglas Jan 2012 #27
I just wanted to add... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #32
22's are scary too... ileus Jan 2012 #7
This is sofa king stupid my brain hurts. (Corrected) Glassunion Jan 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author TPaine7 Jan 2012 #11
snork iverglas Jan 2012 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #67
good god, get a clue iverglas Jan 2012 #13
Oops... you are correct. Glassunion Jan 2012 #20
that's cool iverglas Jan 2012 #22
No, no, that's a JONI Mitchell AK-22. Now she is PROHIBITED, too. EZ. nt SteveW Jan 2012 #91
Canada has a more sensible approach to guns and health care than we do. In fact, most countries do. Hoyt Jan 2012 #16
Feel free to move out at any time rl6214 Jan 2012 #17
We should all pitch in and buy him a bus ticket. n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #25
ah, love it or leave it! iverglas Jan 2012 #29
Awe come on, you'll take him won't you? rl6214 Jan 2012 #30
Only because they stop Sarah Palin at the border... ellisonz Jan 2012 #39
from what I understand gejohnston Jan 2012 #46
ba-zinga. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #78
she would indeed iverglas Jan 2012 #79
Most of ours probably do too gejohnston Jan 2012 #85
NRA royalties? nt SteveW Jan 2012 #92
perhaps, America should follow suit and make entry to our country more restrictive Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #65
Now, now- don't you know that's only for more "progressive" nations? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #68
funny how that works, isn't it. ironic, even. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #69
if entry to the Canada were actually more restricted iverglas Jan 2012 #74
you said it Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #76
there's no point there iverglas Jan 2012 #80
actually Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #81
That sounds so right wing of you guys. Hoyt Jan 2012 #44
Good Grief fightthegoodfightnow Jan 2012 #56
Good grief, I was a toddler in the 60's rl6214 Jan 2012 #58
so you haven't heard iverglas Jan 2012 #63
criticizing it is one thing...threatening to leave it is another thing entirely. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #66
The point is that "if you don't like it you can leave" is a juvenile comment... DanTex Jan 2012 #70
! Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #71
and now for the actual point iverglas Jan 2012 #75
and in turn Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #77
I do it all the time rl6214 Jan 2012 #88
So would I be correct DragonBorn Jan 2012 #19
wouldn't it really be better iverglas Jan 2012 #24
They hate you for your freedom. n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #40
and our poutine iverglas Jan 2012 #42
I love poutine. Glassunion Jan 2012 #59
Maybe DragonBorn Jan 2012 #41
how it goes iverglas Jan 2012 #43
I'm a bit confused DragonBorn Jan 2012 #45
licensing vs registration iverglas Jan 2012 #47
Thanks for you repy DragonBorn Jan 2012 #96
and see post 73 iverglas Jan 2012 #97
But if one *is* familiar with guns, the Valmets are clearly AK derivatives... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #48
the thing is iverglas Jan 2012 #53
They were banned because they *look* like AK-47s... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #55
rofl Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #82
just for info, that would be the Ruger Mini-14 iverglas Jan 2012 #83
if the ruling gejohnston Jan 2012 #60
My wife and children are Candian. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #94
they come from ... Candia? iverglas Jan 2012 #100
I had an intresting experence with canadian firearms law two years ago. oneshooter Jan 2012 #57
Wow! Glassunion Jan 2012 #61
"a smoking cessation device" iverglas Jan 2012 #84
I don't know. Glassunion Jan 2012 #93
customs is a funny thing iverglas Jan 2012 #62
In Hawaii, agricultural inspection is taken very seriously. ellisonz Jan 2012 #99
Just proves there are bureaucratic morons in both countries MicaelS Jan 2012 #95
O Canada Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #72
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