Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

(17,502 posts) Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:45 PM Sep 2012

what is an assault weapon? [View all]

and what isn't? This is a Benelli MP95e semi automatic pistol. It is commonly used in the Olympics and ISSF competitions. Since the magazine is outside the grip, it is legally an "assault weapon" in California and would be banned in many of the proposed federal laws. Ironic thing is, it can be purchased in most of Europe and Canada.

This is a Walter GSP, same thing.

How would you write a AWB? How "reasonable" and "common sense" is that?

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what is an assault weapon? [View all] gejohnston Sep 2012 OP

Ban'm upaloopa Sep 2012 #1

You want to ban Olympic target pistols? Why? n/t oneshooter Sep 2012 #12

Hey, did you hear that President Obama will be making a speech tonight? rfranklin Sep 2012 #2

don't have a TV, so I'll catch it when gejohnston Sep 2012 #3

I mean as Democrats are we legally bound to watch it? Missycim Sep 2012 #7

In Colonial Times ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #9

Yeah, I may be coming to club you... rfranklin Sep 2012 #10

+1 ellisonz Sep 2012 #20

Given the nature of the group you are talking to... Clames Sep 2012 #54

I take advantage of my Second Amendment rights... rfranklin Sep 2012 #58

Not by going up to somebody and clubbing them. Clames Sep 2012 #59

It was a stupid reply reply to a stupid comment... rfranklin Sep 2012 #62

I thought there were three great speeches made during the Democratic convention and ... spin Sep 2012 #19

Good point - who makes up the list of criteria on these bans? socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #4

There are several posters here that would argue this point with you. oneshooter Sep 2012 #11

"A sorry state of affairs". Simo 1939_1940 Sep 2012 #55

I'm glad you chose those particular handguns as examples - The original California AWB banned them. slackmaster Sep 2012 #5

That is why I chose those two. gejohnston Sep 2012 #6

They're not scary like the TEC-9 because it has one of those shoulder things that go up slackmaster Sep 2012 #15

This is what happens when you create artificial definitions ManiacJoe Sep 2012 #8

It's just another "Sugarman Sugarism". We should ban Sugarist words from the RKBA group. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #13

It's whatever is used in an assault....knives, keys, rocks... ileus Sep 2012 #14

It's pretty much whatever they say it is and that means it's pretty much everything trouble.smith Sep 2012 #23

Don't be afraid of DI's they're just fine. ileus Sep 2012 #27

An assault weapon is a manportable weapon for use against fortifications Euromutt Sep 2012 #16

Mmmmmmm ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #17

Well Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #21

So, what you're saying is ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #24

Used to fire them. Marinedem Sep 2012 #22

Speaking of firing from the hip Euromutt Sep 2012 #25

True gejohnston Sep 2012 #18

Clearly not an assault weapon JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2012 #26

And it does'nt have the "shoulder thingy that goes up" either. oneshooter Sep 2012 #29

So does the M60 Machine Gun. Clames Sep 2012 #60

OMG you guys have to STOP littlewolf Sep 2012 #28

Definition of assault weapon SecularMotion Sep 2012 #30

That was the definition by government committee. Remmah2 Sep 2012 #31

It is the definition from the Assault Weapon Ban SecularMotion Sep 2012 #32

Yes, and it had no effect on crime. Remmah2 Sep 2012 #35

Here's one effect of the Assault Weapons Ban SecularMotion Sep 2012 #36

So now compare that data to the number of people shot, killed and injured hack89 Sep 2012 #38

C'mon admit it, the AWB stopped that rash of drive by bayonetings DonP Sep 2012 #39

There HAS been a graphic increase in drive by barrel shroudings. nt Remmah2 Sep 2012 #41

Keeping military style weapons out of the hands of criminals SecularMotion Sep 2012 #43

But your article was talking mainly about handguns hack89 Sep 2012 #44

They started doing that in 1934 MercutioATC Sep 2012 #46

"military style weapons" are they the same as "military weapons"? oneshooter Sep 2012 #47

That is a very good thing. ManiacJoe Sep 2012 #50

But since this is... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #52

"pre-criminals"!! I like that word! PavePusher Sep 2012 #53

In the world where... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #56

Meanwhile, murder and violent crime are at record lows in the state. Dr_Scholl Sep 2012 #49

It's still not a definition, and I can prove it derby378 Sep 2012 #57

No, a camel is a racehorse designed by a committee (n/t) Euromutt Sep 2012 #61

under the proposed 2003 gejohnston Sep 2012 #34

The term was created by the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act. SecularMotion Sep 2012 #37

So, what, did California legislators use a delorean to go back to 1989? X_Digger Sep 2012 #40

You're right. I should have used definition instead of term. SecularMotion Sep 2012 #42

*A* definition was created in 1993. Another was created in 1989. Another was created in 1994 by MD.. X_Digger Sep 2012 #45

And the term is completely useless in the Real World. ManiacJoe Sep 2012 #51

Wrong out of the gate. Straw Man Sep 2012 #67

That's a legal definition, and thus not necessarily applicable for practical purposes Euromutt Sep 2012 #63

It's the definition from the Assault Weapon Ban that was in effect from 1994 to 2004 SecularMotion Sep 2012 #64

did a Democrat introduce a bill to reauthorize it? gejohnston Sep 2012 #65

Can you define what is an "assault weapon" in one or two sentences? Euromutt Sep 2012 #66

You see gangs using those guns all the time 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #33

To be quite direct... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #48