Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Some people dislike gays, others dislike guns. We should not base our laws on personal dislikes. [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)However despite the desire of conservatives, Roe v Wade hasn't been overturned since the court ruled in 1973.
Perhaps in 40 or 50 years a more liberal Supreme Court will overturn the recent decisions in District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago but I wouldn't get your hopes up too high that this will happen anytime soon. Times change but not rapidly.
Much of the legal battle over gun control laws in the near future will focus on the legality of the laws passed by states and cities restricting those who can own a firearm and who can legally carry one. The recent SCOTUS rulings do not prohibit all gun control laws.
You pose the idea of taxing bullets so that each would cost "20 bucks a piece." That would mean that a box of 50 handgun rounds would cost $1000 which would mean that just one box would cost twice what the very popular Glock pistol sells for.
In order to functionally check a new firearm you have to run at least one box of ammo through it and to develop any proficiency with using it requires far more rounds for practice. Under your plan only the 1% could afford to practice shooting with legal ammunition. However a black market would spring up and deal in smuggled ammunition just as the drug cartels market illegal drugs.
You also ignore or are not aware of the fact that many shooters reload their own ammunition and some even cast their own bullets. I reloaded my own handgun ammo for 30 years and still have the equipment to do so. I often reloaded a box of 50 .38 caliber bullets 30 times or more. All I would need is my expended brass, primers, powder and some cheap equipment such as a bullet mold and I can easily and cheaply produce very accurate ammo.
I suggest you check out these links to find out how simple it is:
http://www.zjstech.net/gunstuff/casting.html
http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/how-to-get-started-reloading-ammunition/
If I didn't still have my reloading requirement I could go to amazon.com and pick up what I need for well under $100.
http://www.amazon.com/Lee-Precision-38-SPL-Loader/dp/B00162RS7O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347669676&sr=8-1&keywords=lee+loader
I used a similar Lee Loader and produced about 6000 rounds for my handguns before I upgraded to a slightly more expensive reloading rig which was easier to use but the ammo I made with the Lee Loader worked just as well.
If you have any interest check out this site which sells reloading equipment and supplies.
http://www.amazon.com/Lee-Precision-38-SPL-Loader/dp/B00162RS7O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347669676&sr=8-1&keywords=lee+loader
I should also point out that passing any law that would tax ammo as you suggest is TOTALLY politically impossible at this time. Reality is a bitch.
You state:
However, the NRA's tax free status is something that can legally be looked into, and maybe change the laws or something so anyone harmed by a gun could include the NRA in a civil lawsuit, and maybe finding them guilty of compliance.
It might be possible to review the tax free status of the NRA but you open a big can of worms when you suggest a civil lawsuit against the NRA for the misuse of firearms. If such a tactic was successful it could lead to lawsuits against many manufacturers and organizations that promoted their products. For example a civil lawsuit against Chevrolet because the corporation manufactures the high powered Corvette which is quite capable of exceeding existing speed limits and in the wrong hands can be misused and cause tragedy. Also included in the lawsuit would be Road and Track magazine merely because it published a positive review of the Corvette and NASCAR because it supports automotive racing sports. I doubt if your idea would hold water in most courts in our nation.
Currently the right to sue gun-sellers for liability is winding its way through the court system. It's a complicated case. If you wish to read about its progress and chances of success visit: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/09/us-usa-shooting-liability-idUSBRE8781JA20120809
You also mention:
Or maybe just allow the government to be the one to sell guns, and get rid of an independent gun dealer (sort of like how Walmart got rid of all the independent mom and pop stores )
Mexico has a system very similar to what you suggest. How well has that worked out?
Mexico
Main article: Gun politics in Mexico
Mexico has strict gun laws. Mexican citizens and legal residents may purchase new non-military firearms for self-protection or hunting only after receiving approval of a petition to the Defense Ministry, which performs extensive background checks. The allowed weapons are restricted to relatively low-caliber and can be purchased from the Defense Ministry only. "Military" firearms, including pistols with bores exceeding .38 caliber, and bb guns (but not pellet guns) require federal licenses and are regulated in a manner similar to that dictated by the U.S. National Firearms Act (NFA). The private sale of "non-military" firearms, however, is unregulated, and while these firearms are supposed to be registered with the government, in practice this is widely ignored. Laws dealing with the possession of "non-military" firearms are left to the states. Generally, "non-military" firearms may be kept in the home, but a license is required to carry them outside the home. President Felipe Calderón has recently called attention to the alleged problem of the smuggling of guns from the United States into Mexico, guns which are easily available both legally and illegally in the United States, and has called for increased cooperation from the United States to stop this illegal weapons trafficking.[44][45] In the five years prior to 2012, over two-thirds of illegal firearms seized in Mexico that could be traced to a source, were traced backed to the United States of America. However, traceable firearms constitute only a small portion of the total seized, and the origin of the majority cannot be positively identified.[46]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics#Mexico
You do have a lot of ideas on how we could reduce gun violence in our nation. It appears to me that you largely ignore the fact that honest citizens frequently use firearms for legitimate self defense just as many who propose draconian gun laws often do. Firearms in civilian hands do cause tragedy but they can also save lives. You may view this as an old tired augment but disarming honest citizens would enable the criminal element to practice its profession without fear of encountered an armed victim. Criminals can always obtain firearms and ammunition. Many drugs are illegal but are still easy to purchase and readily available in all areas of our nation. I can walk two blocks from where I currently live in a small town in Northern Florida and purchase any drugs that I want. (Of course I have no interest in doing so.) I am positive that if I wished I could easily buy an illegal firearm and the ammo to feed it with no questions being asked from the same individuals who deal drugs. If your ideas were implemented it wouldn't eliminate the simple fact the black market would provide them for a significant price.
I always welcome debate. I will only suggest that you carefully consider my viewpoints and counter them in a polite manner. I will in return treat your ideas with respect and give them honest consideration. We may still end up disagreeing but we might learn something from each other. Perhaps we may reach some agreement on how we can improve existing laws and reduce gun violence in our nation.
I look forward to your reply if you choose to make one.