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Gun Control & RKBA

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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 03:54 PM Sep 2012

The Tale of Two Second Amendments [View all]

If you think the gun rights-gun control debate is not a serious issue in this year's election, you are mistaken. Look no further than this year's Republican and Democrat platforms and one can see that Second Amendment politics is an issue of serious disagreement.

For Republicans, the Second Amendment is not limited to the holdings of the Supreme Court decisions District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. City of Chicago, where 5-4 majorities only held that armed self-defense in the home, with a hand gun, is a fundamental right of law-abiding citizens. Allegedly, the right to keep and bear arms also "includes the right to obtain and store ammunition without registration," a right to self-defense "wherever a law-abiding citizen has a legal right to be," the ability to purchase and maintain unlimited ammo clips, and the ability to purchase and maintain assault rifles. All and all, Republicans see the Second Amendment as a means to enable "Americans to defend their homes and communities."

For Democrats, the Second Amendment is acknowledged as an "important part of the American tradition" that includes the "right to own and use firearms." However, unlike Republicans, the Democrats perceive the Second Amendment as being "subject to reasonable regulation." It is the Democratic Party's hope that there can be "an honest, open national conversation about firearms" and the "terrible consequences of gun violence."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/patrick-j-charles/the-tale-of-two-second-ame_b_1866063.html
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The Tale of Two Second Amendments [View all] SecularMotion Sep 2012 OP
The plain meaning of words is the enemy of all 2A supporters. Loudly Sep 2012 #1
You keep saying this like you haven't been proven wrong everytime you bring it up Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #3
Your obviously don't mean this. discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #8
Political indulgence of a gun fetish doesn't follow from an honest read. Loudly Sep 2012 #12
Good afternoon, shares. Enjoy your stay. nt rDigital Sep 2012 #15
"Settled for all time by the American Civil War." discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #16
Didn't you Rebs agree to that at Appomattox? Loudly Sep 2012 #17
The list grows: discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #20
Unable to respond? discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #34
You must buy your Strawmen(tm) wholesale..... PavePusher Sep 2012 #19
Shares fabricates them ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #22
what is really said , Shares, is: Oneka Sep 2012 #24
Obviously, that is only the beginning of what anyone can say it means. Loudly Sep 2012 #29
Just because the Confederate states failed in their attempt at Secession Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #25
All this bears out is how wrong and willful an armed populace can be. Loudly Sep 2012 #28
Yeah, you're right.... no nation that ever went to war with its own government got anywhere... PavePusher Sep 2012 #30
The most basic logic dictates DWC Sep 2012 #37
Good afternoon Shares... ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #13
No, it's the enemy of anti-second amendment people Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #26
Debate... right Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #2
so then, you are not a democrat? Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #14
Well Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #21
Because we have no choice. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #27
Well said. NT Trunk Monkey Sep 2012 #33
I can't find... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #4
"the Democrat platform" Kolesar Sep 2012 #7
>>> discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #9
What's the point where "reasonable restrictions" become "infringements"? nt Remmah2 Sep 2012 #39
Language has meaning discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #40
good idea! rrneck Sep 2012 #5
Okay, just for the sake of discussion SecularMotion Sep 2012 #6
Prove you can. rrneck Sep 2012 #10
I'm not sure if... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #11
Roll reversal is touted as good therapy. PavePusher Sep 2012 #32
Surely, freedom from slavery and voting rights should be "subject to reasonable regulation." PavePusher Sep 2012 #18
No one should be in disagreement on the 2A. ileus Sep 2012 #23
And then there's the third tale...your. rl6214 Sep 2012 #31
"...this year's Republican and Democrat platforms..." krispos42 Sep 2012 #35
"...with Democrats hoping to strengthen background checks, close purchasing loopholes..." krispos42 Sep 2012 #36
The Huffington Post really need to hire a writer. Remmah2 Sep 2012 #38
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