Gun Control & RKBA

glacierbay

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147. Scared of Blooming Idiot?

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:44 PM

Sep 2012

Last edited Fri Sep 28, 2012, 09:19 PM - Edit history (1)

Where ever did you get that idea? That gasbag is nothing more that all those before him, he just wants his 15 minutes of fame. Why hasn't he used his billions to emasculate the NRA? Why hasn't the IRS gone after the NRA? Why have there been no gun control legislation brought up successfully on the House or Senate? Why are there now 49 out of 50 states now with some form of CC laws? If firearm crime is so rampant, as you seem to claim, why has not 1 state moved to either restrict or repeal their CC laws?

You, my mis-informed friend, are wrong in every sense of the word. I don't know why you think that 2012 is the year for the defeat of gun rights, not even Pres. Obama agrees with your position.

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Does anybody have a common sense solution [View all] rrneck Sep 2012 OP

Yell "FIRE" get as many people looking as possible Vincardog Sep 2012 #1

Did you ever notice rrneck Sep 2012 #3

You have obviously heard about the back elevator at the Dallas PD. Vincardog Sep 2012 #5

Nope, never heard of it. nt rrneck Sep 2012 #8

People get mugged there regularly, aside from that what is your point? Vincardog Sep 2012 #9

LOL! You'd think the city would jump for rrneck Sep 2012 #11

Well I have noticed that people are rarely assaulted in Bikers clubhouses. Why would they want an Vincardog Sep 2012 #12

Well, you've got a point there. rrneck Sep 2012 #14

And where Jack Ruby shot Lee Harvey Oswald holdencaufield Sep 2012 #67

Jammin' rrneck Sep 2012 #163

Oliver Stone was right! holdencaufield Sep 2012 #172

Fight or flee tama Sep 2012 #2

I guess that depends on rrneck Sep 2012 #6

Sorry tama Sep 2012 #10

Im asking for a solution to a problem. rrneck Sep 2012 #13

LOL tama Sep 2012 #15

I agree that not feeling afraid helps. rrneck Sep 2012 #16

You're getting to the heart of the matter. tama Sep 2012 #19

Well, actually rrneck Sep 2012 #20

You know tama Sep 2012 #22

I have it on good authority... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #23

Totally tama Sep 2012 #25

Passive resistance rrneck Sep 2012 #27

The frame of fear tama Sep 2012 #30

So how rrneck Sep 2012 #34

Don't think tama Sep 2012 #38

Wjat would you have the body do? rrneck Sep 2012 #46

Have you ever stumbled tama Sep 2012 #52

Well rrneck Sep 2012 #58

I've been physically assaulted tama Sep 2012 #62

I know... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #37

Yes tama Sep 2012 #47

Mental images... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #94

Incomprehensible, but I like your sig. :) tama Sep 2012 #108

Well thank you :) discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #134

correction discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #31

True that. rrneck Sep 2012 #33

To my understanding tama Sep 2012 #40

your contentions... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #43

So rrneck Sep 2012 #45

I don't plan nt tama Sep 2012 #48

Thats the solution you offer? Don't plan? nt rrneck Sep 2012 #50

No tama Sep 2012 #56

The point of the thread was to solicit solutions. rrneck Sep 2012 #59

Not to create situations tama Sep 2012 #65

Does the victim create the situation? nt rrneck Sep 2012 #168

I had a cigarette on the balcony tama Sep 2012 #170

I like most anything rrneck Sep 2012 #173

Yeah tama Sep 2012 #175

Einstein is dead. rrneck Sep 2012 #177

Level with me: tama Sep 2012 #181

There was a Saturday Night Live skit once rrneck Sep 2012 #182

Yes, freedom of movement is good tama Sep 2012 #183

The most immediate scale rrneck Sep 2012 #195

Just magical thinking. tama Sep 2012 #207

But there's no common sense solution there. rrneck Sep 2012 #213

"Do you know how to change a flat tire?" tama Sep 2012 #218

Well, there y'go. rrneck Sep 2012 #219

It's easy tama Sep 2012 #220

So what does your common sense rrneck Sep 2012 #223

Itself: tama Sep 2012 #224

Metaphysics are moot in an assault. rrneck Sep 2012 #225

Your question gives me a happy smile tama Sep 2012 #226

I'm glad youre happy. rrneck Sep 2012 #227

The assault of your questions tama Sep 2012 #228

But what would you have us do? rrneck Sep 2012 #229

What are we - you and me - doing now? tama Sep 2012 #233

Typing? Talking? That will stop an assailant? rrneck Sep 2012 #234

Your line of questioning tama Sep 2012 #236

... rrneck Sep 2012 #237

Dictionary definitions tama Sep 2012 #238

Physical violence. rrneck Sep 2012 #239

I think his solution is "hakuna matata". N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #69

Thanks tama Sep 2012 #100

Monks with guns. Remmah2 Sep 2012 #192

Perhaps 90,000,000 fellow citizens are cowards? Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #204

Thank you for your compliment tama Sep 2012 #209

You do hate so. Is that all you have?nt Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #246

Pepper spray? Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #86

that would be my answer loves_dulcinea Sep 2012 #112

All very good points glacierbay Sep 2012 #116

Parameters? Well, that's what we dont know, isn't it? rrneck Sep 2012 #161

The circumstances are indeed germane... Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #202

Of course avoidance is best. rrneck Sep 2012 #215

Wasp Spray Remmah2 Sep 2012 #194

In general, yes. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #4

Yes. rrneck Sep 2012 #7

"any force used should be commensurate to that of the assailant. " oneshooter Sep 2012 #21

Unless you are also 6'3" and 240lbs, then it wouldn't be commensurate. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #28

Boring questions. oneshooter Sep 2012 #39

You apparently don't understand the definition of assault. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #64

That is a push and shove match. oneshooter Sep 2012 #159

That would give me the shakes too. Doubt I'd want to go near any weapon again. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #203

Why is that? Your weapon is your best friend, the other guys not so much oneshooter Sep 2012 #241

well,, how about this "child"? Oneka Sep 2012 #118

I agree, but am not sure of the relevance. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #205

There are only three options when confronted with violence. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #17

A straightforward rational reply. rrneck Sep 2012 #18

The best way to deal with violence is to avoid it. Remmah2 Sep 2012 #193

Common Sense; Logic; and Survival Instincts dictate DWC Sep 2012 #24

From my martial arts training. Cary Sep 2012 #26

Next time you're out and about rrneck Sep 2012 #29

Are you looking for tama Sep 2012 #35

People with your attitude generally got themselves very dead, oneshooter Sep 2012 #42

Spot-on DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #55

What is your line of work? tama Sep 2012 #63

Was, it's a young mans game. oneshooter Sep 2012 #113

I too had a young mans game tama Sep 2012 #126

Mine paid better. I generally took my pay in gold coins. oneshooter Sep 2012 #201

I became content tama Sep 2012 #208

I don't carry a gun. rrneck Sep 2012 #44

Your term, "adequate solution," seems off to me. Cary Sep 2012 #80

So it sounds like rrneck Sep 2012 #83

You know what? Cary Sep 2012 #87

That's fine. That may be the best answer yet. rrneck Sep 2012 #90

That's kind of a strange question Cary Sep 2012 #97

True. rrneck Sep 2012 #164

Avoiding the situation? Cary Sep 2012 #72

Eberything you offered would require rrneck Sep 2012 #79

Avoiding the situation? Cary Sep 2012 #82

Most people can't outrun their assailants. rrneck Sep 2012 #85

Yeah, well. You do what you can do. Cary Sep 2012 #88

Yes, it's obvious. rrneck Sep 2012 #92

I think I'm pretty much done with you. Cary Sep 2012 #96

Well, okay. rrneck Sep 2012 #165

The firearm and edged weapon self-defense class I've taken have all taught many of the same things slackmaster Sep 2012 #32

Yes. Two knives yield two corpses. Cary Sep 2012 #75

A stupid small coward like Zimmerman pulls out a gun and shoots an unarmed person, in back graham4anything Sep 2012 #36

Okay rrneck Sep 2012 #49

Yep glacierbay Sep 2012 #51

Don't feel bad, nobody else does either. nt rrneck Sep 2012 #53

Do you actually want an answer? If so graham4anything Sep 2012 #54

Finally, a concise answer glacierbay Sep 2012 #60

answer to #2 and #6 and other answers graham4anything Sep 2012 #68

Sooo rrneck Sep 2012 #61

Are we Indiana Jones vs. the big bad guy with the big bad knife? graham4anything Sep 2012 #70

Interesting Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #71

you are funny. graham4anything Sep 2012 #84

You can find me funny Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #186

I am not interested in NRA talking points graham4anything Sep 2012 #210

one problem gejohnston Sep 2012 #242

actually he doesn't graham4anything Sep 2012 #244

not a distraction at all, gejohnston Sep 2012 #245

that is not him personally and real issues are very complex, not one line soundbytes graham4anything Sep 2012 #247

by today's standards, Obama is a liberal Democrat gejohnston Sep 2012 #248

But what solution do you offer rrneck Sep 2012 #78

it takes two to fight. Not fighting is the option graham4anything Sep 2012 #93

You are either a jokester glacierbay Sep 2012 #105

Guess you don't believe there is a good in all people graham4anything Sep 2012 #110

it works very simply gejohnston Sep 2012 #115

So you agree the 2012 drone use is a good thing, and anything a president does is ok graham4anything Sep 2012 #119

So you would sacrifice your liberty glacierbay Sep 2012 #123

my security and freedom is sacrified by the Zimmerman's of the nation graham4anything Sep 2012 #132

Zimmerman may be whatever gejohnston Sep 2012 #136

and he stalked and killed an unarmed man in the name of what exactly??? graham4anything Sep 2012 #138

actually, he didn't gejohnston Sep 2012 #141

Guess it will depend which 12 people are on the jury graham4anything Sep 2012 #145

I have been on juries gejohnston Sep 2012 #149

And I've been hearing that same schtick glacierbay Sep 2012 #152

Kristofferson did write that glacierbay Sep 2012 #139

Thomas Jefferson can no longer abuse his female slaves like he did & then there is... graham4anything Sep 2012 #142

it is not the NRA or its money gejohnston Sep 2012 #143

the NRA is a bully pulpit that in essence blackmails politicians graham4anything Sep 2012 #146

Let me quote Richard Nixon gejohnston Sep 2012 #156

Exactly which constitutional rights of yours are Oneka Sep 2012 #144

you won't agree but graham4anything Sep 2012 #148

you are correct , i don't agree. Oneka Sep 2012 #153

OJ Simpson was found innocent of all charges, however, had he a gun graham4anything Sep 2012 #187

I really don't understand Oneka Sep 2012 #188

I trust the President(Obama) to do what is right. I trust Mayor Bloomberg graham4anything Sep 2012 #190

Scared of Blooming Idiot? glacierbay Sep 2012 #147

who said 2012? change takes decades graham4anything Sep 2012 #150

Ooooookay glacierbay Sep 2012 #157

To quote Orwell tama Sep 2012 #171

Look up what orwell said about guns nt Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #206

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #216

Benjamin Franklin n/t tama Sep 2012 #154

Thank you glacierbay Sep 2012 #158

"I fully back Mike Bloomberg in his belief about security and guns." YAY! Oneka Sep 2012 #128

Sooooooo rrneck Sep 2012 #166

the gun solution made no sense in 1855 makes less sense 2012 graham4anything Sep 2012 #185

"A gun is a false deity." Oneka Sep 2012 #189

Your being scared of the boogie man is a little creepy to me. graham4anything Sep 2012 #191

Sooooo rrneck Sep 2012 #196

its a stupid analogy graham4anything Sep 2012 #211

Sooooooo rrneck Sep 2012 #212

a strawman graham4anything Sep 2012 #214

Of course backing off os preferable. rrneck Sep 2012 #217

MLK and Jesus were not pacifists gejohnston Sep 2012 #243

IMO Your comments put new meaning DWC Sep 2012 #197

the herd mentality is the NRA and their groupies that bow down to the 1% graham4anything Sep 2012 #221

A "real man" Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #57

So tama Sep 2012 #66

I live about 30 min away from Amish country Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #74

you would have to be specific, have no idea what you refer to. graham4anything Sep 2012 #77

I'm referring tama Sep 2012 #103

bullsheet that is so 1850s. graham4anything Sep 2012 #73

What you call "better" Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #76

you can live in prison or be free graham4anything Sep 2012 #98

I will call it naive Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #102

yet you are scared of a littly bitty Jewish guy named Michael graham4anything Sep 2012 #231

actually, Bernie was not a vigilante gejohnston Sep 2012 #104

Bernie was a coward. graham4anything Sep 2012 #230

Gotta be careful with the Delicate Flowers bongbong Sep 2012 #222

+1 graham4anything Sep 2012 #232

There is a question pending in the OP you have yet to address. rrneck Sep 2012 #235

So if I have a perp coming at me with a weapon glacierbay Sep 2012 #89

Do you then follow the double dog dare thing? graham4anything Sep 2012 #99

You do know I'm a Police Officer right? glacierbay Sep 2012 #101

Who gets to determine and how? tama Sep 2012 #106

The perp determines the level of force used glacierbay Sep 2012 #121

The question was more general tama Sep 2012 #131

I find the NYPD treatment of peaceful Occupy protesters glacierbay Sep 2012 #137

You give me hope tama Sep 2012 #151

As much as it pains me to say this glacierbay Sep 2012 #160

Interesting tama Sep 2012 #167

This is good news for TX Occupy glacierbay Sep 2012 #169

There's a little point of semantics tama Sep 2012 #174

That is your profession. Does that mean everyone brings their job home with them? graham4anything Sep 2012 #107

running away is often more dangerous gejohnston Sep 2012 #111

I am an honest cop glacierbay Sep 2012 #114

so in another sense, you agree that a President has the 1st duty to protect a citizen graham4anything Sep 2012 #117

Bloomburg is an authoritarian gejohnston Sep 2012 #120

but he is doing exactly what you wish done graham4anything Sep 2012 #127

say what? gejohnston Sep 2012 #130

No. glacierbay Sep 2012 #125

I personally don't like the term states rights as it is a racist term in the past graham4anything Sep 2012 #129

I'm beginning to doubt that you are even an american citizen glacierbay Sep 2012 #133

you don't know the difference between vigilante gejohnston Sep 2012 #135

Well it is anarchy tama Sep 2012 #140

Zimmerman did NOT shoot Martin in the back. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #81

And the only DNA found of the gun was asswipe Zimmerman's Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #91

That has nothing to do with whether Martin was shot in the front or the back. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #109

This is why I don't take anything seriously from this person glacierbay Sep 2012 #95

Colton Gleason : Real man, may he rest in peace. Oneka Sep 2012 #122

three ways to respond. ileus Sep 2012 #41

Flee if possible. Oneka Sep 2012 #124

I have been assaulted a couple of times. It's difficult but staying calm and resisting has worked Lint Head Sep 2012 #155

Sound advice. Do ypu think everyone rrneck Sep 2012 #162

turn the TV off Zygoat Sep 2012 #176

I don't watch TV. nt rrneck Sep 2012 #178

what kind of assault were you asking about? Zygoat Sep 2012 #179

It doesnt matter. rrneck Sep 2012 #180

Don't feel bad rrneck littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #184

I hear ya. rrneck Sep 2012 #199

Three simple words: 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #198

LOL! rrneck Sep 2012 #200

A systematic approach discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #240