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rrneck

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223. So what does your common sense

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 04:39 PM

Sep 2012

offer in the way of a solution?

A good way to tell how well grounded in reality your solution might be is to ask yourself whether or not you would assume responsibility for its failure.

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Does anybody have a common sense solution [View all] rrneck Sep 2012 OP

Yell "FIRE" get as many people looking as possible Vincardog Sep 2012 #1

Did you ever notice rrneck Sep 2012 #3

You have obviously heard about the back elevator at the Dallas PD. Vincardog Sep 2012 #5

Nope, never heard of it. nt rrneck Sep 2012 #8

People get mugged there regularly, aside from that what is your point? Vincardog Sep 2012 #9

LOL! You'd think the city would jump for rrneck Sep 2012 #11

Well I have noticed that people are rarely assaulted in Bikers clubhouses. Why would they want an Vincardog Sep 2012 #12

Well, you've got a point there. rrneck Sep 2012 #14

And where Jack Ruby shot Lee Harvey Oswald holdencaufield Sep 2012 #67

Jammin' rrneck Sep 2012 #163

Oliver Stone was right! holdencaufield Sep 2012 #172

Fight or flee tama Sep 2012 #2

I guess that depends on rrneck Sep 2012 #6

Sorry tama Sep 2012 #10

Im asking for a solution to a problem. rrneck Sep 2012 #13

LOL tama Sep 2012 #15

I agree that not feeling afraid helps. rrneck Sep 2012 #16

You're getting to the heart of the matter. tama Sep 2012 #19

Well, actually rrneck Sep 2012 #20

You know tama Sep 2012 #22

I have it on good authority... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #23

Totally tama Sep 2012 #25

Passive resistance rrneck Sep 2012 #27

The frame of fear tama Sep 2012 #30

So how rrneck Sep 2012 #34

Don't think tama Sep 2012 #38

Wjat would you have the body do? rrneck Sep 2012 #46

Have you ever stumbled tama Sep 2012 #52

Well rrneck Sep 2012 #58

I've been physically assaulted tama Sep 2012 #62

I know... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #37

Yes tama Sep 2012 #47

Mental images... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #94

Incomprehensible, but I like your sig. :) tama Sep 2012 #108

Well thank you :) discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #134

correction discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #31

True that. rrneck Sep 2012 #33

To my understanding tama Sep 2012 #40

your contentions... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #43

So rrneck Sep 2012 #45

I don't plan nt tama Sep 2012 #48

Thats the solution you offer? Don't plan? nt rrneck Sep 2012 #50

No tama Sep 2012 #56

The point of the thread was to solicit solutions. rrneck Sep 2012 #59

Not to create situations tama Sep 2012 #65

Does the victim create the situation? nt rrneck Sep 2012 #168

I had a cigarette on the balcony tama Sep 2012 #170

I like most anything rrneck Sep 2012 #173

Yeah tama Sep 2012 #175

Einstein is dead. rrneck Sep 2012 #177

Level with me: tama Sep 2012 #181

There was a Saturday Night Live skit once rrneck Sep 2012 #182

Yes, freedom of movement is good tama Sep 2012 #183

The most immediate scale rrneck Sep 2012 #195

Just magical thinking. tama Sep 2012 #207

But there's no common sense solution there. rrneck Sep 2012 #213

"Do you know how to change a flat tire?" tama Sep 2012 #218

Well, there y'go. rrneck Sep 2012 #219

It's easy tama Sep 2012 #220

So what does your common sense rrneck Sep 2012 #223

Itself: tama Sep 2012 #224

Metaphysics are moot in an assault. rrneck Sep 2012 #225

Your question gives me a happy smile tama Sep 2012 #226

I'm glad youre happy. rrneck Sep 2012 #227

The assault of your questions tama Sep 2012 #228

But what would you have us do? rrneck Sep 2012 #229

What are we - you and me - doing now? tama Sep 2012 #233

Typing? Talking? That will stop an assailant? rrneck Sep 2012 #234

Your line of questioning tama Sep 2012 #236

... rrneck Sep 2012 #237

Dictionary definitions tama Sep 2012 #238

Physical violence. rrneck Sep 2012 #239

I think his solution is "hakuna matata". N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #69

Thanks tama Sep 2012 #100

Monks with guns. Remmah2 Sep 2012 #192

Perhaps 90,000,000 fellow citizens are cowards? Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #204

Thank you for your compliment tama Sep 2012 #209

You do hate so. Is that all you have?nt Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #246

Pepper spray? Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #86

that would be my answer loves_dulcinea Sep 2012 #112

All very good points glacierbay Sep 2012 #116

Parameters? Well, that's what we dont know, isn't it? rrneck Sep 2012 #161

The circumstances are indeed germane... Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #202

Of course avoidance is best. rrneck Sep 2012 #215

Wasp Spray Remmah2 Sep 2012 #194

In general, yes. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #4

Yes. rrneck Sep 2012 #7

"any force used should be commensurate to that of the assailant. " oneshooter Sep 2012 #21

Unless you are also 6'3" and 240lbs, then it wouldn't be commensurate. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #28

Boring questions. oneshooter Sep 2012 #39

You apparently don't understand the definition of assault. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #64

That is a push and shove match. oneshooter Sep 2012 #159

That would give me the shakes too. Doubt I'd want to go near any weapon again. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #203

Why is that? Your weapon is your best friend, the other guys not so much oneshooter Sep 2012 #241

well,, how about this "child"? Oneka Sep 2012 #118

I agree, but am not sure of the relevance. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #205

There are only three options when confronted with violence. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #17

A straightforward rational reply. rrneck Sep 2012 #18

The best way to deal with violence is to avoid it. Remmah2 Sep 2012 #193

Common Sense; Logic; and Survival Instincts dictate DWC Sep 2012 #24

From my martial arts training. Cary Sep 2012 #26

Next time you're out and about rrneck Sep 2012 #29

Are you looking for tama Sep 2012 #35

People with your attitude generally got themselves very dead, oneshooter Sep 2012 #42

Spot-on DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #55

What is your line of work? tama Sep 2012 #63

Was, it's a young mans game. oneshooter Sep 2012 #113

I too had a young mans game tama Sep 2012 #126

Mine paid better. I generally took my pay in gold coins. oneshooter Sep 2012 #201

I became content tama Sep 2012 #208

I don't carry a gun. rrneck Sep 2012 #44

Your term, "adequate solution," seems off to me. Cary Sep 2012 #80

So it sounds like rrneck Sep 2012 #83

You know what? Cary Sep 2012 #87

That's fine. That may be the best answer yet. rrneck Sep 2012 #90

That's kind of a strange question Cary Sep 2012 #97

True. rrneck Sep 2012 #164

Avoiding the situation? Cary Sep 2012 #72

Eberything you offered would require rrneck Sep 2012 #79

Avoiding the situation? Cary Sep 2012 #82

Most people can't outrun their assailants. rrneck Sep 2012 #85

Yeah, well. You do what you can do. Cary Sep 2012 #88

Yes, it's obvious. rrneck Sep 2012 #92

I think I'm pretty much done with you. Cary Sep 2012 #96

Well, okay. rrneck Sep 2012 #165

The firearm and edged weapon self-defense class I've taken have all taught many of the same things slackmaster Sep 2012 #32

Yes. Two knives yield two corpses. Cary Sep 2012 #75

A stupid small coward like Zimmerman pulls out a gun and shoots an unarmed person, in back graham4anything Sep 2012 #36

Okay rrneck Sep 2012 #49

Yep glacierbay Sep 2012 #51

Don't feel bad, nobody else does either. nt rrneck Sep 2012 #53

Do you actually want an answer? If so graham4anything Sep 2012 #54

Finally, a concise answer glacierbay Sep 2012 #60

answer to #2 and #6 and other answers graham4anything Sep 2012 #68

Sooo rrneck Sep 2012 #61

Are we Indiana Jones vs. the big bad guy with the big bad knife? graham4anything Sep 2012 #70

Interesting Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #71

you are funny. graham4anything Sep 2012 #84

You can find me funny Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #186

I am not interested in NRA talking points graham4anything Sep 2012 #210

one problem gejohnston Sep 2012 #242

actually he doesn't graham4anything Sep 2012 #244

not a distraction at all, gejohnston Sep 2012 #245

that is not him personally and real issues are very complex, not one line soundbytes graham4anything Sep 2012 #247

by today's standards, Obama is a liberal Democrat gejohnston Sep 2012 #248

But what solution do you offer rrneck Sep 2012 #78

it takes two to fight. Not fighting is the option graham4anything Sep 2012 #93

You are either a jokester glacierbay Sep 2012 #105

Guess you don't believe there is a good in all people graham4anything Sep 2012 #110

it works very simply gejohnston Sep 2012 #115

So you agree the 2012 drone use is a good thing, and anything a president does is ok graham4anything Sep 2012 #119

So you would sacrifice your liberty glacierbay Sep 2012 #123

my security and freedom is sacrified by the Zimmerman's of the nation graham4anything Sep 2012 #132

Zimmerman may be whatever gejohnston Sep 2012 #136

and he stalked and killed an unarmed man in the name of what exactly??? graham4anything Sep 2012 #138

actually, he didn't gejohnston Sep 2012 #141

Guess it will depend which 12 people are on the jury graham4anything Sep 2012 #145

I have been on juries gejohnston Sep 2012 #149

And I've been hearing that same schtick glacierbay Sep 2012 #152

Kristofferson did write that glacierbay Sep 2012 #139

Thomas Jefferson can no longer abuse his female slaves like he did & then there is... graham4anything Sep 2012 #142

it is not the NRA or its money gejohnston Sep 2012 #143

the NRA is a bully pulpit that in essence blackmails politicians graham4anything Sep 2012 #146

Let me quote Richard Nixon gejohnston Sep 2012 #156

Exactly which constitutional rights of yours are Oneka Sep 2012 #144

you won't agree but graham4anything Sep 2012 #148

you are correct , i don't agree. Oneka Sep 2012 #153

OJ Simpson was found innocent of all charges, however, had he a gun graham4anything Sep 2012 #187

I really don't understand Oneka Sep 2012 #188

I trust the President(Obama) to do what is right. I trust Mayor Bloomberg graham4anything Sep 2012 #190

Scared of Blooming Idiot? glacierbay Sep 2012 #147

who said 2012? change takes decades graham4anything Sep 2012 #150

Ooooookay glacierbay Sep 2012 #157

To quote Orwell tama Sep 2012 #171

Look up what orwell said about guns nt Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #206

Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #216

Benjamin Franklin n/t tama Sep 2012 #154

Thank you glacierbay Sep 2012 #158

"I fully back Mike Bloomberg in his belief about security and guns." YAY! Oneka Sep 2012 #128

Sooooooo rrneck Sep 2012 #166

the gun solution made no sense in 1855 makes less sense 2012 graham4anything Sep 2012 #185

"A gun is a false deity." Oneka Sep 2012 #189

Your being scared of the boogie man is a little creepy to me. graham4anything Sep 2012 #191

Sooooo rrneck Sep 2012 #196

its a stupid analogy graham4anything Sep 2012 #211

Sooooooo rrneck Sep 2012 #212

a strawman graham4anything Sep 2012 #214

Of course backing off os preferable. rrneck Sep 2012 #217

MLK and Jesus were not pacifists gejohnston Sep 2012 #243

IMO Your comments put new meaning DWC Sep 2012 #197

the herd mentality is the NRA and their groupies that bow down to the 1% graham4anything Sep 2012 #221

A "real man" Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #57

So tama Sep 2012 #66

I live about 30 min away from Amish country Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #74

you would have to be specific, have no idea what you refer to. graham4anything Sep 2012 #77

I'm referring tama Sep 2012 #103

bullsheet that is so 1850s. graham4anything Sep 2012 #73

What you call "better" Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #76

you can live in prison or be free graham4anything Sep 2012 #98

I will call it naive Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #102

yet you are scared of a littly bitty Jewish guy named Michael graham4anything Sep 2012 #231

actually, Bernie was not a vigilante gejohnston Sep 2012 #104

Bernie was a coward. graham4anything Sep 2012 #230

Gotta be careful with the Delicate Flowers bongbong Sep 2012 #222

+1 graham4anything Sep 2012 #232

There is a question pending in the OP you have yet to address. rrneck Sep 2012 #235

So if I have a perp coming at me with a weapon glacierbay Sep 2012 #89

Do you then follow the double dog dare thing? graham4anything Sep 2012 #99

You do know I'm a Police Officer right? glacierbay Sep 2012 #101

Who gets to determine and how? tama Sep 2012 #106

The perp determines the level of force used glacierbay Sep 2012 #121

The question was more general tama Sep 2012 #131

I find the NYPD treatment of peaceful Occupy protesters glacierbay Sep 2012 #137

You give me hope tama Sep 2012 #151

As much as it pains me to say this glacierbay Sep 2012 #160

Interesting tama Sep 2012 #167

This is good news for TX Occupy glacierbay Sep 2012 #169

There's a little point of semantics tama Sep 2012 #174

That is your profession. Does that mean everyone brings their job home with them? graham4anything Sep 2012 #107

running away is often more dangerous gejohnston Sep 2012 #111

I am an honest cop glacierbay Sep 2012 #114

so in another sense, you agree that a President has the 1st duty to protect a citizen graham4anything Sep 2012 #117

Bloomburg is an authoritarian gejohnston Sep 2012 #120

but he is doing exactly what you wish done graham4anything Sep 2012 #127

say what? gejohnston Sep 2012 #130

No. glacierbay Sep 2012 #125

I personally don't like the term states rights as it is a racist term in the past graham4anything Sep 2012 #129

I'm beginning to doubt that you are even an american citizen glacierbay Sep 2012 #133

you don't know the difference between vigilante gejohnston Sep 2012 #135

Well it is anarchy tama Sep 2012 #140

Zimmerman did NOT shoot Martin in the back. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #81

And the only DNA found of the gun was asswipe Zimmerman's Sekhmets Daughter Sep 2012 #91

That has nothing to do with whether Martin was shot in the front or the back. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #109

This is why I don't take anything seriously from this person glacierbay Sep 2012 #95

Colton Gleason : Real man, may he rest in peace. Oneka Sep 2012 #122

three ways to respond. ileus Sep 2012 #41

Flee if possible. Oneka Sep 2012 #124

I have been assaulted a couple of times. It's difficult but staying calm and resisting has worked Lint Head Sep 2012 #155

Sound advice. Do ypu think everyone rrneck Sep 2012 #162

turn the TV off Zygoat Sep 2012 #176

I don't watch TV. nt rrneck Sep 2012 #178

what kind of assault were you asking about? Zygoat Sep 2012 #179

It doesnt matter. rrneck Sep 2012 #180

Don't feel bad rrneck littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #184

I hear ya. rrneck Sep 2012 #199

Three simple words: 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #198

LOL! rrneck Sep 2012 #200

A systematic approach discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #240