Gun Control & RKBA

slackmaster

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7. Less control over peoples' choices and behavior does not mean "more guns"

Reply to mikeb302000 (Original post)

Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:58 AM

Jan 2012

Does anyone really believe the number of truly legitimate DGUs which have happened over the last year and which have resulted in the saving of life, outnumbers the death and destruction of all those shootings?

I think that's a bogus comparison. The number of "legitimate DGUs" is unknown and unknowable, and the actual number would vary widely depending on how one defines a defensive gun use. But the real flaw in that kind of reasoning is the implication that making it harder or impossible for people to use their guns defensively would result in less violent crime.

In a society that values liberty, absence of measurable harm from freedom of choice is sufficient justification for keeping that freedom.

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One Year After the Giffords Shooting the Pro-Gun Folks are Still Whistling in the Dark [View all] mikeb302000 Jan 2012 OP

'Whistling in the Dark' is a great song! petronius Jan 2012 #1

I'm Old School. I prefer doin' past a graveyard. nt SteveW Jan 2012 #14

That would require admitting that... ellisonz Jan 2012 #2

What about the liberty to shoot bad people that carrying a gun provides? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #3

I drink black coffee, not tea... ellisonz Jan 2012 #4

By all means, let's base public policy on what Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #5

Where do you think comics get their material? nt Remmah2 Jan 2012 #6

It's called humor. ellisonz Jan 2012 #21

Yes. NT Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #25

I saw a couple people on DU2 mean it Union Scribe Jan 2012 #35

Why do you think they would subscribe to such an outlandish notion? ellisonz Jan 2012 #36

There's proof positive rrneck Jan 2012 #8

Priceless! Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #13

Couldn't agree more! Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #27

We all have different tastes. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #30

See post #35 Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #39

You guys are cracking me up. That's great. Hoyt Jan 2012 #10

There isn't one. But you knew that, didn't you....? SteveW Jan 2012 #15

"moral condemnation of fellow progressives who believe in a strong Second Amendment" Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #32

In my experience, progressives are the most staunch defenders of civil rights. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #34

I think you are confused in your interpretation of civil rights. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #37

+1000 ellisonz Jan 2012 #40

You started off pretty good rl6214 Jan 2012 #20

Showing your true (and not terribly pretty) colors here. NT Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #26

still can't seem to figure out what "well regulated militia" really means rl6214 Jan 2012 #19

Thanks to Antonin Scalia! n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #22

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Huh. W.H.A.P. was right. n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #29

Still settled none the less rl6214 Jan 2012 #38

But who holds the right? TupperHappy Jan 2012 #31

We're telling you but your not listening. E6-B Jan 2012 #41

Less control over peoples' choices and behavior does not mean "more guns" slackmaster Jan 2012 #7

I saved my life with a gun. E6-B Jan 2012 #42

I think you are right that we are rapidly approaching a "saturation point." Hoyt Jan 2012 #9

Well, then "we are rapidly approaching a point" where no more saturation can take place. nt SteveW Jan 2012 #16

lmfao montanto Jan 2012 #24

Talk about whistling in the dark. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #28

My opinion is that you don't know the definition of "we". beevul Jan 2012 #11

What "level"? Oh you mean the *declining* level? Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #12

The people finally have a taste of freedom, and we're not willing to give it up easily. ileus Jan 2012 #17

New year, same old shit rl6214 Jan 2012 #18

The most disingenious drivel you've posted yet. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #33