Gun Control & RKBA

We_Have_A_Problem

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103. Yeah really

Reply to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #97)

Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:03 AM

Jan 2012

The government has no legal authority to say one word about someone being armed. Simple as that.

A convict loses that right via due process upon conviction. Not even remotely the same thing as what you propose.

If an elected official wants everyone who might hear him speak disarmed, tough shit for him. Really - there isn't a damn thing he can do about it. Yeah - believe it son. Obama comes to Houston and wants to speak in public, and guess what? My right to be armed is NOT suspended while he's here.

Expecting a manufacturer to make a product that is safe to use as designed doesn't really have a place in the argument. CA has been pulling that shit for a few years and yeah, its going to fail when it goes to court.

Accept it - your side lost and lost hard. As of now, you are advocating restricting a right based purely upon your own ignorance and bigotry. That makes you philosophically no different than the KKK.

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What defines "reasonable restrictions"? [View all] Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2011 OP

Think in this context... MicaelS Dec 2011 #1

Excellent point! OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2011 #3

Thorny questions one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #6

Here the issue of minors comes into play DissedByBush Dec 2011 #11

Nor do I one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #16

Technicalities DissedByBush Dec 2011 #27

Sure fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2011 #37

sure I am! iverglas Jan 2012 #60

I think banning third-trimester abortions is a reasonable restriction Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #67

well good for you, chum! iverglas Jan 2012 #68

You're not nearly as clever as you think you are. Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #75

"hostile"? iverglas Jan 2012 #77

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oh dear, nothing to quote, I see iverglas Jan 2012 #80

There you go again. Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #82

I do indeed iverglas Jan 2012 #87

You are challenging the most sacred, most liberal, most progressive, most important of all rights! TPaine7 Jan 2012 #69

huh iverglas Jan 2012 #74

Restrictions that are within the ability rrneck Dec 2011 #2

...and still Wayne Lapierre with fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2011 #38

I'm sure you can provide a cite for that claim, right? DonP Dec 2011 #43

Wand Rape fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2011 #50

Parts of it gejohnston Dec 2011 #53

Read Thread fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2011 #56

Florida has what I consider "reasonable restrictions" ... spin Dec 2011 #4

another question is gejohnston Dec 2011 #5

I think the real question is -- Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2011 #7

see my post 59 iverglas Jan 2012 #61

I asked that a few years back and got abusive and irrational hysterics in response TPaine7 Dec 2011 #8

I would like to see something along the lines of -- Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2011 #9

Some initial reactions DissedByBush Dec 2011 #12

For the most part, I agree with you on these. Having to purchase a product to exercise a SlimJimmy Dec 2011 #24

Of course you have to purchase a gun DissedByBush Dec 2011 #26

You COULD concievably make one... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #28

The question is the reason for the cost DissedByBush Dec 2011 #31

I agree with you 100%. We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #35

Agree, well stated. SlimJimmy Dec 2011 #36

There's a Constitutional Right to Cheap Guns? fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2011 #39

You know if you worked at it ... just a little ... you could be even less informed DonP Dec 2011 #40

What part of that fact do you disagree with? fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2011 #42

The post did not imply that DonP Dec 2011 #44

Read Post 31 Again fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2011 #47

Wrong as usual... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #57

No, that's not a fact. PavePusher Dec 2011 #45

No, but there is a Constitutional Right.... PavePusher Dec 2011 #46

In order to make sure poor people couldn't get guns DissedByBush Dec 2011 #49

Banning and Taxing are Different Things fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2011 #51

Not when it comes to Constitutionally protected activities. See "Minneapolis Star v. Minnesota"... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #54

Ridiculous fightthegoodfightnow Jan 2012 #95

It is when the taxes act to limit availability. And there are already taxes on guns and ammo. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #99

Not if the "tax"... We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #71

Ban? fightthegoodfightnow Jan 2012 #96

not recent but gejohnston Jan 2012 #98

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Well let’s see…. MicaelS Dec 2011 #13

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"abusive and irrational hysterics" iverglas Jan 2012 #65

Yes, abusive and irrational hysterics. TPaine7 Jan 2012 #70

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yes, it is the actions that need to discussed and "restricted" Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #30

I think we mostly agree on restricted actions already DissedByBush Dec 2011 #32

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What I don't understand is We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #17

Well, I invite the advocates of reasonable restrictions to define that term Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2011 #18

That's the thing though... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #19

It might be argued that background checks are reasonable Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2011 #20

Well except that... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #21

I dunno. The law would state its illegal for covicted felons to own Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2011 #22

But a felon knows he is ineligible... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #23

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um Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #63

hm iverglas Jan 2012 #64

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Nope sorry - you're wrong. We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #91

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death spewers? rrneck Jan 2012 #83

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If you're armed and they're not I wonder how that is supposed to work. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #94

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