Gun Control & RKBA

DragonBorn

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96. Thanks for you repy

Mon Jan 9, 2012, 05:24 PM

Jan 2012

This topic is a bit complicated for someone not already schooled in Canadian firearm law.

And your right about the AP80 vs. the AK-22 being a law school question, but that should be sussed out by either the RCMP firearm officials or the court system (whoever would be responsible). It's tangentially related to my comment on the RCMP officials. I didn't mean to sound as if I was calling them idiots, I just meant to illustrate that they are fallible. No human could possibly know every single firearm ever put into production, and I simply think this single model of firearm may have fell through the cracks and got placed on a banned list even though it shouldn't have.

But the main argument boils down to this for me.
What is the AP80?
A semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine.

Are other semi-automatic .22 rifles with detachable magazines legal in Canada?
Yes.
Then the AP80 should be legal in Canada.

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Canada bans .22 rifle because it looks similar to an AK-47 [View all] Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 OP

Glad they are catching criminals with their registry. Glassunion Jan 2012 #1

I just noticed this actually called for reply iverglas Jan 2012 #49

I agree. Glassunion Jan 2012 #54

in theory ... iverglas Jan 2012 #73

Yeah - that's fucking intelligent.... n/t We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #2

And some propane tanks look like atom bombs JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2012 #3

+1 on the beer. nt Remmah2 Jan 2012 #4

There are a lot of people that hunt and eat squirrel and rabbit rl6214 Jan 2012 #8

Yes, if they want it killed, tenderized, and shredded JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2012 #26

Someone forgot to tell Solomon... We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #18

Truely Orwellian.... PavePusher Jan 2012 #5

Canada is not a totalitarian state. ellisonz Jan 2012 #35

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"carry weapons near our elected officials and wage war against government" PavePusher Jan 2012 #50

Don't tell me all those "milita" groups are training to fight Canadians. ellisonz Jan 2012 #51

well ... iverglas Jan 2012 #52

I'd like to apologize to Canada for the rampant anti-Canadianism that is perpetuated in this country ellisonz Jan 2012 #98

sniff iverglas Jan 2012 #101

I've heard Canada is "a lot like the U.S." This may be an indication... SteveW Jan 2012 #89

ah, my little hometown newspaper iverglas Jan 2012 #6

That's right, the courts are absolutly correct and absolutely absolute in their decisions. Remmah2 Jan 2012 #9

if you say so iverglas Jan 2012 #12

The Courts never change their rulings... ellisonz Jan 2012 #37

They look like an AK, but function totally differently. X_Digger Jan 2012 #15

the description in #10 iverglas Jan 2012 #21

I'd love to know whether the applicant's counsel tried to explain.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #28

just to point out iverglas Jan 2012 #31

So fed cabinet -> court -> court.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #33

have a look at the decision iverglas Jan 2012 #34

My God, civilized government... ellisonz Jan 2012 #38

so then, you are planning to leave Hawaii for Canada Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #64

Such hostility... ellisonz Jan 2012 #86

passive agressive behavior tends to bring that out in people that are paying attention. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #87

Well, my last girlfriend looked like Marilyn Monroe. Really. She did. nt SteveW Jan 2012 #90

Great example of legislation by fiat. The GG says it's so, therefore it's so. slackmaster Jan 2012 #23

snork iverglas Jan 2012 #27

I just wanted to add... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #32

22's are scary too... ileus Jan 2012 #7

This is sofa king stupid my brain hurts. (Corrected) Glassunion Jan 2012 #10

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snork iverglas Jan 2012 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #67

good god, get a clue iverglas Jan 2012 #13

Oops... you are correct. Glassunion Jan 2012 #20

that's cool iverglas Jan 2012 #22

No, no, that's a JONI Mitchell AK-22. Now she is PROHIBITED, too. EZ. nt SteveW Jan 2012 #91

Canada has a more sensible approach to guns and health care than we do. In fact, most countries do. Hoyt Jan 2012 #16

Feel free to move out at any time rl6214 Jan 2012 #17

We should all pitch in and buy him a bus ticket. n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #25

ah, love it or leave it! iverglas Jan 2012 #29

Awe come on, you'll take him won't you? rl6214 Jan 2012 #30

Only because they stop Sarah Palin at the border... ellisonz Jan 2012 #39

from what I understand gejohnston Jan 2012 #46

ba-zinga. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #78

she would indeed iverglas Jan 2012 #79

Most of ours probably do too gejohnston Jan 2012 #85

NRA royalties? nt SteveW Jan 2012 #92

perhaps, America should follow suit and make entry to our country more restrictive Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #65

Now, now- don't you know that's only for more "progressive" nations? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #68

funny how that works, isn't it. ironic, even. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #69

if entry to the Canada were actually more restricted iverglas Jan 2012 #74

you said it Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #76

there's no point there iverglas Jan 2012 #80

actually Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #81

That sounds so right wing of you guys. Hoyt Jan 2012 #44

Good Grief fightthegoodfightnow Jan 2012 #56

Good grief, I was a toddler in the 60's rl6214 Jan 2012 #58

so you haven't heard iverglas Jan 2012 #63

criticizing it is one thing...threatening to leave it is another thing entirely. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #66

The point is that "if you don't like it you can leave" is a juvenile comment... DanTex Jan 2012 #70

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and now for the actual point iverglas Jan 2012 #75

and in turn Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #77

I do it all the time rl6214 Jan 2012 #88

So would I be correct DragonBorn Jan 2012 #19

wouldn't it really be better iverglas Jan 2012 #24

They hate you for your freedom. n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #40

and our poutine iverglas Jan 2012 #42

I love poutine. Glassunion Jan 2012 #59

Maybe DragonBorn Jan 2012 #41

how it goes iverglas Jan 2012 #43

I'm a bit confused DragonBorn Jan 2012 #45

licensing vs registration iverglas Jan 2012 #47

Thanks for you repy DragonBorn Jan 2012 #96

and see post 73 iverglas Jan 2012 #97

But if one *is* familiar with guns, the Valmets are clearly AK derivatives... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #48

the thing is iverglas Jan 2012 #53

They were banned because they *look* like AK-47s... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #55

rofl Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #82

just for info, that would be the Ruger Mini-14 iverglas Jan 2012 #83

if the ruling gejohnston Jan 2012 #60

My wife and children are Candian. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #94

they come from ... Candia? iverglas Jan 2012 #100

I had an intresting experence with canadian firearms law two years ago. oneshooter Jan 2012 #57

Wow! Glassunion Jan 2012 #61

"a smoking cessation device" iverglas Jan 2012 #84

I don't know. Glassunion Jan 2012 #93

customs is a funny thing iverglas Jan 2012 #62

In Hawaii, agricultural inspection is taken very seriously. ellisonz Jan 2012 #99

Just proves there are bureaucratic morons in both countries MicaelS Jan 2012 #95

O Canada Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #72