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In reply to the discussion: Politico: House Oversight Committee & Fast and Furious whistleblower demand 'Fortune' retract story [View all]TPaine7
(4,286 posts)21. LOL! If only your humor were intentional.
Holder didn't actually say "the Fortune article is wrong."
Sigh.
Nevertheless, he discredits it, as do Democratic Congress members.
I once showed you, in detail, that the first time the Supreme Court spoke to the Second Amendment, it stated the (unremarkable and uncontroversial) fact that the right of the people was personal and showed clearly that it was not understood to be limited in any way by militia service. I also showed you by direct quotation and the clearest historical facts that the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment set out intentionally to protect a personal right to carry guns that does not depend on militia service, and to protect it specifically against the entities that controlled the militias--the states.
The Court and the Framers discredited your silly argument that the right as currently understood and protected was the product of Scalia and a right wing Court.
You see the Court and Framers showed, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that you either didn't know what you were talking about or you were lying. The fact that they weren't called from their graves to pronounce solemnly...
DanTex has no clue what he is talking about on the Second and Fourteenth Amendments or he is lying
...does not mean that their words don't discredit your "Scalia Theory."
Also, unlike the Fortune reporter, Holder didn't personally conduct an investigation of F&F.
So? What has that to do with the melt rate of the glaciers?
Holder had a team of professional investigators at his disposal, people who, like their boss, would have been loathe to falsely admit to wrongdoing in his department. People who could be authorized with COMPLETE access to the entire department(s). People who ALL agents could be compelled to talk to.
This is where the capacity for elementary logic would come in handy...
True, but I've just about given up hope for you.
ETA: It is a nice change of pace to see you citing a Democrat for once. This is the first time I've ever seen it!
Hmmmm...
Here's you answering my citation of Democrats in July:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=47388
Here I am citing a "wacko" who certainly sounds like a Democrat to me, but I'm sure you think she's a drooling, right-wing, gun blogging lunatic:
TPaine7 (3,827 posts)
74. "some wacko"
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Suzanne Novak, Senior Staff Attorney
Suzanne Novak is a Senior Staff Attorney in the U.S. Legal Program, and previously served as both a Staff Attorney and Blackmun Fellow at the Center. She has defended the rights of teenagers in Alaska to make their own reproductive health decisions, challenged an abortion ban in Virginia, and successfully sued to shut down a fake abortion referral service. Prior to returning to the Center, Ms. Novak served as a Deputy Director of the Democracy Program at the Brennan Center, where she coordinated the Center's Campaign Finance Reform and Government Accountability Projects. She was also an Associate at Arnold & Porter and a clerk for the honorable Stephen M. McNamee of the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona. She graduated with honors from New York University School of Law.
http://reproductiverights.org/en/profile/suzanne-novak
Obviously a right wing wacko of the first order, right? Probably a tea party activist and gun blogger, too.
Whatever it takes.
Source: http://www.democraticunderground.com/117266245#post74
74. "some wacko"
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Suzanne Novak, Senior Staff Attorney
Suzanne Novak is a Senior Staff Attorney in the U.S. Legal Program, and previously served as both a Staff Attorney and Blackmun Fellow at the Center. She has defended the rights of teenagers in Alaska to make their own reproductive health decisions, challenged an abortion ban in Virginia, and successfully sued to shut down a fake abortion referral service. Prior to returning to the Center, Ms. Novak served as a Deputy Director of the Democracy Program at the Brennan Center, where she coordinated the Center's Campaign Finance Reform and Government Accountability Projects. She was also an Associate at Arnold & Porter and a clerk for the honorable Stephen M. McNamee of the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona. She graduated with honors from New York University School of Law.
http://reproductiverights.org/en/profile/suzanne-novak
Obviously a right wing wacko of the first order, right? Probably a tea party activist and gun blogger, too.
Whatever it takes.
Source: http://www.democraticunderground.com/117266245#post74
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Politico: House Oversight Committee & Fast and Furious whistleblower demand 'Fortune' retract story [View all]
TPaine7
Oct 2012
OP
The Republicans (both in the house and in the Gungeon) are having trouble letting go their beloved
DanTex
Oct 2012
#3
I know this must be hard for you to accept, but the Fast and Furious "scandal" is over.
DanTex
Oct 2012
#7
In other words, you can't refute a word I said, so you'll stick to innuendo. Boring, but smart. n/t
TPaine7
Oct 2012
#8
LOL. After being proved wrong, the gun fanatic will typically just repeat the false statement
DanTex
Oct 2012
#9
She was discredited long before the IG's report came out by those who care about reality as opposed
TPaine7
Oct 2012
#13
Nope. Holder didn't actually say "the Fortune article is wrong." That would be you and the
DanTex
Oct 2012
#18
Sigh. "Those who care about reality" are Holder and congressional Democrats. And I put words in
TPaine7
Oct 2012
#24