Ogden officer killed in firefight ‘doing exactly what he wanted to do’

[pipoman]

17. I really believe it is too early and too little information to determine

"This guy obviously had no respect for the law.". Police descriptions of what happened are all you have. Police saying, "No one answered when they knocked on the door and identified themselves.", may not be as benign as it sounds. Picture 12 men sneaking up to a door at night, once at the door they "knock" by beating on the door while all 12 are yelling "Police..search warrant" simultaneously and at the tops of their lungs. Seconds later, without allowing time for any thought, they hit the door with a ram, crashing through. The confusion and "element of surprise" are intentional parts of these "raids". The results have been in the past, the resident shooting in self defense thinking they are being attacked. No, police tactics and attention to "element of surprise" have cost many police fatalities. Of coarse the police position is always, 'we knocked and identified ourselves yet this bad, bad person intentionally open fire on police', the reality may be somewhat different than the picture painted by this type of statement.

Couple that with someone who we trained to prevail in residential fire fights, who has lived months or years in fear and reacting violently to surprise attacks, because of his skill was awarded medals..a skill not so desirable on the streets of the US...I'll withhold judgment until the film of the actual raid is released.