Gun Control & RKBA

Atypical Liberal

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82. Again, IT IS CURRENTLY THE LAW OF THE LAND.

Reply to mikeb302000 (Reply #77)

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 12:12 PM

Oct 2012

The 2A has about as much relevance today as the 3A. Eventually both will be understood to be anachronistic and meaningless.

It doesn't matter whether you think they are anachronistic and meaningless.

It is the law of the land in the United States.

But aside from that, the second amendment is not anachronistic nor meaningless. The motivations of man have not changed much for all of recorded history. The cliche that "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" is still as meaningful today as it ever was. The risk of tyranny and oppression are no different today than they were 200 years ago.

The founders set up a government with decentralized power for a reason, and those reasons are as valid today as they ever were. Worse, slowly but surely since the creation of this country the government has steadily increased and consolidated its power, directly counter to what the founders intended. This has allowed us to become one of the most powerful empires on Earth, but at what cost to our own liberty and that of people around the world?

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Rep. Steve King (R-IA) Explains the Second Amendment [View all] mikeb302000 Oct 2012 OP

I think Reasonable_Argument Oct 2012 #1

Admiral Sergey Gorshkov ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #2

FICTION fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #5

Not true glacierbay Oct 2012 #8

Minor correction Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #26

Thank you. glacierbay Oct 2012 #27

I thought of you when I wrote this one. mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #47

I'm not going to your crappy little blog glacierbay Oct 2012 #50

827 posts...how many with a link to your shitty blog? Callisto32 Oct 2012 #51

826 NT Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #54

Read it yourself. holdencaufield Oct 2012 #9

prove it. All Caps does not the truth make. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #18

I think this gentleman is much more knowledge than you glacierbay Oct 2012 #20

Who was fictional, Gorshkov or Yamamoto? nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #21

What your arguments are.... Clames Oct 2012 #24

Sure they would and they would dismiss it as inconsequential. mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #41

Um.. I have the same shit they used in WWII and beyond. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #43

You live in a fantasy world in which you're a real bad ass. n.t. mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #63

Not really. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #73

On what date is Victory in Afghanistan Day celebrated? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #46

Afghanistan didn't really have much of a military 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #80

Admiral Yamamoto thought it was important. N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #3

Crazy fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #4

read closer gejohnston Oct 2012 #6

Wrong fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #7

I guess you missed the entire Bush administration. rrneck Oct 2012 #11

Re: The IMPLICATION is clear. It could be. Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #12

Believeing one's own government "won't do it here" is really really dangerous. Callisto32 Oct 2012 #52

THERE IS NO FOREIGN INVASION mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #42

It's not just about invasion Reasonable_Argument Oct 2012 #49

Italy went from 'il Risorgimento' to Mussolini within one human lifetime. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #59

Well, then mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #64

I do, I vote Reasonable_Argument Oct 2012 #68

NRA talking points, how silly. n-t- mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #75

I've noticed that when gun control proponents glacierbay Oct 2012 #79

Not at the moment gejohnston Oct 2012 #61

You might want to rethink that Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #10

It's still treason. But you don't get COLGATE4 Oct 2012 #13

Maryland Constitution, Declaration of Rights, Article 6 Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #33

Yeah, except it's still Treason under COLGATE4 Oct 2012 #39

Like ours, the U.S. Constitution is also a compact. Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #40

If the government is being overthrown rogrot Oct 2012 #53

Are there any other inanimate objects aside from guns that give you the willies? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #58

By it, I meant "a dude walking down the street with a holstered gun," "it" being that scenario. rogrot Oct 2012 #62

no. You are conflating Individual Equality to the government for Treason. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #16

It's only "treason" if you loose. PavePusher Oct 2012 #35

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Our Founding Fathers, in order to Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #14

Sadly Reasonable_Argument Oct 2012 #15

We must continue to educate our less knowledgeable compatriots. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #17

Sadly, you're correct glacierbay Oct 2012 #19

Was this a changed identity? nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #22

I really don't know glacierbay Oct 2012 #28

I got fingered for changing my I.D., Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #32

Mike, you really do need to study the Constitution and history in general more carefully.nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #23

The Italian Constitution? Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #29

Well, it's a start. christ. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #31

Look at experimental data. Francis Marion Oct 2012 #25

You use a lot of "us" and "our country" for a guy that doesn't live here. DonP Oct 2012 #30

Re: your many avid followers. Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #34

"both of his many avid followers" PavePusher Oct 2012 #36

Your attempts to discredit my position sounds like mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #44

Mike, how does one pronounce "Vietnam" and "Afghanistan" in Italian? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #48

You're not saying anything to "deal with" you fraud! DonP Oct 2012 #55

Oh really? mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #65

"You don't know enough about me to judge." Oh, we most certainly *do*, Mike/Jason/Baldr... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #83

I kept my family safe today with my personal safety device. ileus Oct 2012 #37

How did you do that? n.t. mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #45

Another day of keeping my family safe with my PSD ileus Oct 2012 #60

In my book that's child abuse. But he's your kid. n.t. mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #66

Now for some real abuse. ileus Oct 2012 #69

It comes nowhere close to child abuse glacierbay Oct 2012 #71

There are all kinds of abuse . I'm entitled to my opinion, am I not? n.t. mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #76

So, IYO, you think this is child abuse, glacierbay Oct 2012 #81

Is Rep King YOUR rep? rl6214 Oct 2012 #38

Anyone who claims our military has nothing to do with our defense is insane 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #56

it DOESN'T MATTER whether you think it is possible or not. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #57

Too bad the 2A is anachronistic and meaningless in today's world. mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #67

In America the government is made up of the people. ileus Oct 2012 #70

You've lived in Italy for so long glacierbay Oct 2012 #72

So is the 3rd Amendment. It is still THE LAW OF THE LAND. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #74

I'm glad you brought that up. mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #77

No part of the U.S. Constitution is meaningless Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #78

Again, IT IS CURRENTLY THE LAW OF THE LAND. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #82