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In reply to the discussion: GAO report on concealed carry in America [View all]Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)23. "Eight million lunatics"?
Eight million lunatics out there living in a fantasy that this is the old west and they are defending the homestead or whatever. When will we wake up and do whatever it takes to end this insanity?
I think you need to do a little research on CCW permit holders.
Not all states publish the data, but for those that do, the data is very clear. States like Texas routinely publish conviction data for CCW permit holders, from everything from Public Lewdness to Homicide.
And what the data shows is that CCW permit holders are less likely to be involved in any kind of crime - let alone firearm-related crime, than a random sampling from the general population.
These eight million people are not lunatics, either literally or figuratively. They are hyper-law abiding people, people willing to go to the trouble and expense for the ability to carry a concealed weapons.
I think you need to do a little research on CCW permit holders.
Not all states publish the data, but for those that do, the data is very clear. States like Texas routinely publish conviction data for CCW permit holders, from everything from Public Lewdness to Homicide.
And what the data shows is that CCW permit holders are less likely to be involved in any kind of crime - let alone firearm-related crime, than a random sampling from the general population.
These eight million people are not lunatics, either literally or figuratively. They are hyper-law abiding people, people willing to go to the trouble and expense for the ability to carry a concealed weapons.
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In 2010, there were ca. 80 million gun owners and 8,775 murders/manslaughters via gun.
friendly_iconoclast
Oct 2012
#18
Your factoid is wrong. More than 35,000 people died in motor vehicle accidents in the USA in 2010...
slackmaster
Oct 2012
#11
Since the only stats you allude to are off by several orders of magnitude....
PavePusher
Oct 2012
#25
FYI - I don't appreciate being called a lunatic. I don't think the other 7,999,999 cc'ers do either.
bluerum
Oct 2012
#3
Fine. You do what you think is appropriate to insure your own personal security and I will do mine.
dumbledork
Oct 2012
#58
So you want to strip non-criminals of their rights because of the actions of criminals? No thanks.
friendly_iconoclast
Oct 2012
#21
Actually, the Justice Department pins the lawful defensive use of firearms at 100k per year.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2012
#31
Most homicides are committed by repeat felons. IIRC, most victims are as well.
Eleanors38
Oct 2012
#36
This figure would indicate that up to 10% of legal firearms owners are CCW...
Eleanors38
Oct 2012
#38