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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
9. I'm not a supporter of a strict environment of regulation
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 09:10 AM
Oct 2012

However, I would imagine that part of the reason is that we can't simply focus on one thing (say, food safety) and abandon all other problems that cause injury or death, because those problems will grow into huge unmanageable problems.


Part of it, too, is that some things are intentional,and some are accidental or statistical. I know that each time I put food in my mouth, there's some kind of tiny chance it has something wrong with it. But, what's wrong with it will be accidental. Undercooked burger, cross-contamination, mom didn't rinse off the cutting board enough after cutting up raw chicken, a rat pooped in a vat of peanut butter, etc.


When guns are misused, it is conciously and with deliberation and intent. I am going to rip away the sanctuary of your home with raw, brute force. I am going to shove this loaded gun in your face and demand your wallet, your car, your family jewels. You are going to be helpless before me, because I have the gun. And if I decide to shoot you so there are no witnesses, or to rape or beat you or your child simply because it amuses me, then you're at my mercy and helpless. This is far more terrifying and physically, mentally, and emotionally scarring than getting sick after eating at Jack-in-the-Box.


I believe that many people that support a strict regulator environment do so because of their vision of a good and just society. I believe it includes a nation where physical violence is always unacceptable, and that tools designed to be used to commit lethal violence are not available to anyone. By not having the tools around, people are unable to train with them, study them, or acquire a mastery of their use. Such skills are dangerous because they enable the mental framework of taking human life, and that mentality will lead to violence. People that think about taking human life every day, and the people that will carry weapons in anticipation or preparation of doing so, are thus far more dangerous to society because they are inured to the social stigma of being non-violent in all matters.

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My Reason jehop61 Oct 2012 #1
Why blame an inanimate object glacierbay Oct 2012 #10
A knife, a broken bottle, or a hunk of metal or plastic Confusious Oct 2012 #29
You're saying that crime only happens in the home? glacierbay Oct 2012 #34
'cause I don't want to be shot Confusious Oct 2012 #35
actually, gejohnston Oct 2012 #36
Well, I think they're more prepared to deal with things Confusious Oct 2012 #37
most gun owners I know go to the range gejohnston Oct 2012 #39
He didn't have to say it Confusious Oct 2012 #42
that has nothing to do with gejohnston Oct 2012 #43
Another reaction Confusious Oct 2012 #45
need to know about what? gejohnston Oct 2012 #49
I think it is civilized to defend yourself. safeinOhio Oct 2012 #61
I can catagorically state as fact that glacierbay Oct 2012 #40
Nope, you didn't say that Confusious Oct 2012 #41
In no way did my reaction to your post glacierbay Oct 2012 #44
Yes it did. Confusious Oct 2012 #46
Like I said glacierbay Oct 2012 #47
Don't need anything in Arizona Confusious Oct 2012 #48
same is true in Vermont gejohnston Oct 2012 #50
So? glacierbay Oct 2012 #52
If CC permit holders frequently shoot the wrong person glacierbay Oct 2012 #38
I can respect that. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #12
I agree that person probably shouldn't have had a gun Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #20
About 40 years ago I had a gun pointed at my head. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #27
But... Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #62
May I ask you safeinOhio Oct 2012 #2
The OP is not calling for no regulations hack89 Oct 2012 #3
So, gun regulations are not black and white issue. safeinOhio Oct 2012 #5
What effort? hack89 Oct 2012 #11
You're right on at least one count. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #14
a bit of a false choice gejohnston Oct 2012 #18
As stated below, I do not support no gun regulation. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #13
Complimentary gun class, I'll go with that.nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #24
What purpose would a waiting period accomplish? N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #28
A time to consider for those who may have slipped through the mental health screening. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #31
Concerning "crimes of passion..." Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #60
TO:Safeinohio Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #64
a MrYikes Oct 2012 #4
That would be great...except. ileus Oct 2012 #7
And what of nonviolent crimes? Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #17
Troll post rl6214 Oct 2012 #19
Troll? Ah, that explains that backside sound I heard. Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #25
So would you execute a person caught jaywalking. ... spin Oct 2012 #21
What about other weapons? PavePusher Oct 2012 #22
Gun violence is just a ruse to wage a culture war for some gun controllers aikoaiko Oct 2012 #6
+1 +1 +1 +1 grand slam discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #63
I never realized that all the mentioned causes represented a "Pick One Only" option. aka-chmeee Oct 2012 #8
I've taken great cares to express a distinct disassociation with your statement. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #15
No Problem here with Guns, aka-chmeee Oct 2012 #55
Are there that many differences, though? Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #56
Well, fortunate it is aka-chmeee Oct 2012 #57
Oops... aka-chmeee Oct 2012 #58
I'm not a supporter of a strict environment of regulation krispos42 Oct 2012 #9
A well-thought response, and I thank you. Shall we continue? Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #16
To clarify, I was stating my view of one side, not not viewpoint. krispos42 Oct 2012 #23
A pleasure, krispos. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #32
Meek Mayor Mike...my how he is scaring the NRA and the gun fans(the 1.5 of america) graham4anything Oct 2012 #26
You have neither answered the question nor stayed remotely on topic. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #30
It's easy as ABC graham4anything Oct 2012 #33
I feel like taking a crack at this, if only to test myself. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #51
Ahhhhhh glacierbay Oct 2012 #53
So I have. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #54
BTW glacierbay Oct 2012 #59
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