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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
23. To clarify, I was stating my view of one side, not not viewpoint.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:45 PM
Oct 2012

Having said that, the greatest technological change occurs when competition runs fierce. This includes war, but war often focuses tightly on certain aspects of technology that have military benefits that fit within the current military framework and that have senior leaders that can envision how to effectively use the technology.

For example, it would have been feasible for the Union to manufacture and field more advanced weapons than the Springfield rifled musket almost immediately upon rebellion; the Sharps carbine or rifle was created 15 years prior to the start of the rebellion. However, close-minded thinking by senior military officials were worried about ammunition waste, and clung to their Springfields that shot at one-third the speed of the Sharps. Now, they might have had a point because the logistical revolution from the steam engine and the railroad was also underway, but again the people that could not adapt mentally to the ideas of supplies brought in by steam and rapid-fire weapons were a liability to the military effort.

It was not until later on, after the old-fashioned leaders that were unable to adapt were replaced by either new leaders or old but flexible officers did the new technology become commonplace.


Now, given, 1861 and 1941 were very different... the officers fighting in 1861 had seen their world remain largely the same until about 1850, when trains and telegraphs and steamships began to seriously alter the nations of the world. The officers fighting in 1941 had, on the other hand, seen their world change a lot in their lifetimes, and everyday, ordinary lives were affected by this change in fundamental ways, so acceptance of new technologies was not as inherently difficult.

But, it wasn't until after WW2 when the technologies that had been developed for narrow wartime purposes were expanded into general civilian life, and the economic conflict created a dazzling array of new products and ideas designed to survive on the battlefield of market share and customer whim, not the forests of Europe or the jungles of the Pacific.

And many of those ideas that were developed in the competive marketplace were in turn picked up by the military-industrial complex and used to make new or improved weapons and logistical infrastructure.


According to the BBC, there were 95 homicides in Scotland in 2009-2010. With 5,255,000 people in Scotland, that's a rate of 1.81 homicides per 100,000 per year, or about one-third the US rate. However, Scotland's total rate is about our non-gun homicide rate; assuming that NONE of the people killed in the US with guns would be subsequently killed with "other" is of course ridiculous.

We have about 16,000 homicides a year. This means that every year, 15,000 people decided to kill at least one person. Since about 9,000 are using guns, to expect those 9,000 people to just.... I don't know, stay home and play Playstation, is just ridiculous.

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My Reason jehop61 Oct 2012 #1
Why blame an inanimate object glacierbay Oct 2012 #10
A knife, a broken bottle, or a hunk of metal or plastic Confusious Oct 2012 #29
You're saying that crime only happens in the home? glacierbay Oct 2012 #34
'cause I don't want to be shot Confusious Oct 2012 #35
actually, gejohnston Oct 2012 #36
Well, I think they're more prepared to deal with things Confusious Oct 2012 #37
most gun owners I know go to the range gejohnston Oct 2012 #39
He didn't have to say it Confusious Oct 2012 #42
that has nothing to do with gejohnston Oct 2012 #43
Another reaction Confusious Oct 2012 #45
need to know about what? gejohnston Oct 2012 #49
I think it is civilized to defend yourself. safeinOhio Oct 2012 #61
I can catagorically state as fact that glacierbay Oct 2012 #40
Nope, you didn't say that Confusious Oct 2012 #41
In no way did my reaction to your post glacierbay Oct 2012 #44
Yes it did. Confusious Oct 2012 #46
Like I said glacierbay Oct 2012 #47
Don't need anything in Arizona Confusious Oct 2012 #48
same is true in Vermont gejohnston Oct 2012 #50
So? glacierbay Oct 2012 #52
If CC permit holders frequently shoot the wrong person glacierbay Oct 2012 #38
I can respect that. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #12
I agree that person probably shouldn't have had a gun Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #20
About 40 years ago I had a gun pointed at my head. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #27
But... Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #62
May I ask you safeinOhio Oct 2012 #2
The OP is not calling for no regulations hack89 Oct 2012 #3
So, gun regulations are not black and white issue. safeinOhio Oct 2012 #5
What effort? hack89 Oct 2012 #11
You're right on at least one count. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #14
a bit of a false choice gejohnston Oct 2012 #18
As stated below, I do not support no gun regulation. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #13
Complimentary gun class, I'll go with that.nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #24
What purpose would a waiting period accomplish? N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #28
A time to consider for those who may have slipped through the mental health screening. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #31
Concerning "crimes of passion..." Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #60
TO:Safeinohio Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #64
a MrYikes Oct 2012 #4
That would be great...except. ileus Oct 2012 #7
And what of nonviolent crimes? Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #17
Troll post rl6214 Oct 2012 #19
Troll? Ah, that explains that backside sound I heard. Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #25
So would you execute a person caught jaywalking. ... spin Oct 2012 #21
What about other weapons? PavePusher Oct 2012 #22
Gun violence is just a ruse to wage a culture war for some gun controllers aikoaiko Oct 2012 #6
+1 +1 +1 +1 grand slam discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #63
I never realized that all the mentioned causes represented a "Pick One Only" option. aka-chmeee Oct 2012 #8
I've taken great cares to express a distinct disassociation with your statement. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #15
No Problem here with Guns, aka-chmeee Oct 2012 #55
Are there that many differences, though? Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #56
Well, fortunate it is aka-chmeee Oct 2012 #57
Oops... aka-chmeee Oct 2012 #58
I'm not a supporter of a strict environment of regulation krispos42 Oct 2012 #9
A well-thought response, and I thank you. Shall we continue? Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #16
To clarify, I was stating my view of one side, not not viewpoint. krispos42 Oct 2012 #23
A pleasure, krispos. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #32
Meek Mayor Mike...my how he is scaring the NRA and the gun fans(the 1.5 of america) graham4anything Oct 2012 #26
You have neither answered the question nor stayed remotely on topic. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #30
It's easy as ABC graham4anything Oct 2012 #33
I feel like taking a crack at this, if only to test myself. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #51
Ahhhhhh glacierbay Oct 2012 #53
So I have. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #54
BTW glacierbay Oct 2012 #59
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