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graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
33. It's easy as ABC
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 06:26 PM
Oct 2012

to have the back of those that support his goals

We can eradicate some cancers
we can eradicate guns

you seem to have mixed up that both are good things to strive for

you I think were citing "bad" people out there.
well, those people will always exist

but saving 1 or 2 or 10 or a million lives from legal and illegal guns can happen without anyone getting another gun

I don't believe in the radical rightwing court that interpreted the 2nd the way they did
same sort of court gave us corporate parenthood

wanting more guns to stop a gun is so wrong I can't count that high.
the old NRA talking points are old and stale.
This is 2012

We need to stop the killings by legal guns and then help those less fortunate to rise on the social ladder (the lower class is more important than the middle class which is more important than the upper class.

give the lower class something other than crime, and they no longer need the gun.

But first you gotta stop the LEGAL guns to later put a dent in illegal

IF all you are worried about is crime- well, more security OUTSIDE the perimeter of a hotel, theatre, restaurant, movie house, baseball stadium means we could keep ALL guns out, provided that those with legal guns are also not allowed to enter.

SEE the problem?
It's the LEGAL guns that stop getting rid of the illegal ones.
It is so clear.

but then "some see what they want to see and disregard the rest"

But in just 2 posts I tore down every single NRA talking point

You can have your guns, inside your home (but make sure you alert anyone who may not want to enter your home that you have one.) I myself would not choose to enter a home where if we argue a political hot topic (like guns or abortions, someone in the fit of rage uses that gun against me, legal as it is.)(then says they were defending themselves.)

You can collect guns, you can go to a shooting range.

But you don't need to have a gun on your possession in the restaurant I am eating at and then accidentally a child gets hurt, or something happens.
I don't want you thinking you will save my life.

(that is what GOOD police are for (not though bad cops).

Long as you keep ALL (legal and illegal) guns out of a place, then no one gets shot.

How much simpler can it be?

Meek Mayor Mike is the NY Mayor who announced 3 days ago he is giving and starting a new pac and giving 8 figures (that means 10-99 MILLION dollars, which will compete against the NRA should he choose, and gun is something he is against.
(as he no longer is running for any office, he is immune to campaigning himself, but now other candidates will have someone protecting their back and not cowering in fear of the bully NRA

imho

again-simple as A B C. Get the legal guns out of the outsides, and bring them only inside your own home, and then we can get rid of illegal guns.

It is like cigarettes-there was NO need to get rid of cigarette companies. Just make people stop smoking outside, showing them cigs are so bad, and they also stop smoking inside.
Cig. companies still exist, but most people no longer smoke.

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My Reason jehop61 Oct 2012 #1
Why blame an inanimate object glacierbay Oct 2012 #10
A knife, a broken bottle, or a hunk of metal or plastic Confusious Oct 2012 #29
You're saying that crime only happens in the home? glacierbay Oct 2012 #34
'cause I don't want to be shot Confusious Oct 2012 #35
actually, gejohnston Oct 2012 #36
Well, I think they're more prepared to deal with things Confusious Oct 2012 #37
most gun owners I know go to the range gejohnston Oct 2012 #39
He didn't have to say it Confusious Oct 2012 #42
that has nothing to do with gejohnston Oct 2012 #43
Another reaction Confusious Oct 2012 #45
need to know about what? gejohnston Oct 2012 #49
I think it is civilized to defend yourself. safeinOhio Oct 2012 #61
I can catagorically state as fact that glacierbay Oct 2012 #40
Nope, you didn't say that Confusious Oct 2012 #41
In no way did my reaction to your post glacierbay Oct 2012 #44
Yes it did. Confusious Oct 2012 #46
Like I said glacierbay Oct 2012 #47
Don't need anything in Arizona Confusious Oct 2012 #48
same is true in Vermont gejohnston Oct 2012 #50
So? glacierbay Oct 2012 #52
If CC permit holders frequently shoot the wrong person glacierbay Oct 2012 #38
I can respect that. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #12
I agree that person probably shouldn't have had a gun Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #20
About 40 years ago I had a gun pointed at my head. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #27
But... Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #62
May I ask you safeinOhio Oct 2012 #2
The OP is not calling for no regulations hack89 Oct 2012 #3
So, gun regulations are not black and white issue. safeinOhio Oct 2012 #5
What effort? hack89 Oct 2012 #11
You're right on at least one count. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #14
a bit of a false choice gejohnston Oct 2012 #18
As stated below, I do not support no gun regulation. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #13
Complimentary gun class, I'll go with that.nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #24
What purpose would a waiting period accomplish? N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #28
A time to consider for those who may have slipped through the mental health screening. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #31
Concerning "crimes of passion..." Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #60
TO:Safeinohio Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #64
a MrYikes Oct 2012 #4
That would be great...except. ileus Oct 2012 #7
And what of nonviolent crimes? Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #17
Troll post rl6214 Oct 2012 #19
Troll? Ah, that explains that backside sound I heard. Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #25
So would you execute a person caught jaywalking. ... spin Oct 2012 #21
What about other weapons? PavePusher Oct 2012 #22
Gun violence is just a ruse to wage a culture war for some gun controllers aikoaiko Oct 2012 #6
+1 +1 +1 +1 grand slam discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #63
I never realized that all the mentioned causes represented a "Pick One Only" option. aka-chmeee Oct 2012 #8
I've taken great cares to express a distinct disassociation with your statement. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #15
No Problem here with Guns, aka-chmeee Oct 2012 #55
Are there that many differences, though? Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #56
Well, fortunate it is aka-chmeee Oct 2012 #57
Oops... aka-chmeee Oct 2012 #58
I'm not a supporter of a strict environment of regulation krispos42 Oct 2012 #9
A well-thought response, and I thank you. Shall we continue? Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #16
To clarify, I was stating my view of one side, not not viewpoint. krispos42 Oct 2012 #23
A pleasure, krispos. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #32
Meek Mayor Mike...my how he is scaring the NRA and the gun fans(the 1.5 of america) graham4anything Oct 2012 #26
You have neither answered the question nor stayed remotely on topic. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #30
It's easy as ABC graham4anything Oct 2012 #33
I feel like taking a crack at this, if only to test myself. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #51
Ahhhhhh glacierbay Oct 2012 #53
So I have. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2012 #54
BTW glacierbay Oct 2012 #59
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