Gun Control & RKBA

hack89

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89. Considering the complete lack of action on gun control

Reply to fightthegoodfightnow (Reply #87)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:52 PM

Oct 2012

by the President and Congress is it clear that that particular part of the platform is there merely to placate folks like you. If they were serious about it why haven't they done anything in the past four years?

Not a lie - just a recognition that gun control is important to a portion of the party. They threw you a bone - you should be happy.

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What Do We Mean by Proper Gun Control? [View all] mikeb302000 Oct 2012 OP

I'm glad "we" are so honest ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #1

Errr. What do you mean "we"? bluerum Oct 2012 #2

I second the motion MrYikes Oct 2012 #3

Is this how they do it in Italy Mikey? glacierbay Oct 2012 #4

Maybe he can show us ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #5

Him and Mussolini would have been best buds. glacierbay Oct 2012 #12

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #14

"We all know." That's a laugh. You know nothing. nt mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #98

Well apparently I know a hell of a lot more than you do glacierbay Oct 2012 #109

100 to 1, huh? mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #212

No Mikey glacierbay Oct 2012 #214

Do You fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #216

Absolutely I do glacierbay Oct 2012 #217

Where does he say he wants them banned? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #219

I'll have to find it but it's been posted here many times glacierbay Oct 2012 #222

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #6

So? I still qualify. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #7

"Under your rules, would you qualify? Or are you a hidden criminal?" rl6214 Oct 2012 #67

Cap guns or airsoft? nt Remmah2 Oct 2012 #70

I see you have a rich fantasy life hack89 Oct 2012 #8

Items 3 and 4 have some merit. The others are unconstitutional. slackmaster Oct 2012 #9

None of the points are good ... Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #11

I'm inclined to agree ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #13

Exactly Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #16

Please bear in mind my perspective - I live in California slackmaster Oct 2012 #15

I use to live in California Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #18

The 10-day wait is pure harassment. I buy mostly C&R firearms. Getting my type 03 FFL... slackmaster Oct 2012 #19

harassment? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #45

What's the point in forcing a person who already has a gun to wait 10 days for another one? slackmaster Oct 2012 #72

Most Call it a Cooling Off Period fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #75

Read carefully, now. Straw Man Oct 2012 #77

Contrary to what you think fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #93

Huh? Straw Man Oct 2012 #95

Read Thread Again fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #105

Pretzel logic. IOW, "You can't have a new gun immediately because you might want to shoot someone... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #124

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #132

You're babbling now. Straw Man Oct 2012 #129

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #131

You don't think? Straw Man Oct 2012 #169

You Write fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #172

Wrong. Straw Man Oct 2012 #175

I get what he's saying. I don't agree with it but I do get it Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #218

Security theater; you seem to have missed the "a person who already has a gun" part. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #78

Yes, however, if a person ALREADY OWNS ONE OR MORE FIREARMS... slackmaster Oct 2012 #81

Then what's the problem? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #83

Pointless bureaucratic harassment for no good reason, that's what.... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #88

Oh But there is a good reason for the vast majority of us fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #91

Well, what is it? gejohnston Oct 2012 #92

Asked and answered fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #94

No -- not answered. Straw Man Oct 2012 #96

The One I Provided Will Save Lives fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #104

We reject it because you have provided no reason save your unsubstatiated claim... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #123

Right fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #135

Prove it. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #125

Prove What? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #134

No. It will not. Straw Man Oct 2012 #128

So fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #133

that's not how it works in a liberal democracy gejohnston Oct 2012 #138

That's Not? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #140

And who are you to claim the mantle of 'acting in the best interests of the people'? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #143

Hummm.......our Party Platform and US Law? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #164

but the people don't want it gejohnston Oct 2012 #145

Hemp and Guns fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #165

Wow, you really don't get it. Straw Man Oct 2012 #168

Get It? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #171

I guess you don't. Straw Man Oct 2012 #173

nah...I guess you don't fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #174

I have an idea ... Straw Man Oct 2012 #176

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #177

OK, I'll explain it. Straw Man Oct 2012 #178

See Post 179 fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #182

That's not an answer. Straw Man Oct 2012 #184

Who Brought Up the Comparison to Cars? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #189

There are two topics under discussion. Straw Man Oct 2012 #191

Guns- The Topic of this Board fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #193

OK, once more, carefully ... Straw Man Oct 2012 #195

RIGHT fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #197

Show me where I made an analogy. Straw Man Oct 2012 #199

Dude fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #201

Dude. Straw Man Oct 2012 #202

Right....because drivers have more to do with guns than cars fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #204

Let's add "straw man" to the list ... Straw Man Oct 2012 #206

LOL fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #208

Don't you ever get tired ... Straw Man Oct 2012 #210

You are right fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #211

SO...... fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #179

Cars? Straw Man Oct 2012 #183

So fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #187

... and ... Straw Man Oct 2012 #190

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #192

Who Brought Up Cars to Begin With and Compare them to Guns fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #188

Wrong again. Straw Man Oct 2012 #194

WRONG fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #196

You're making a fool of yourself now. Straw Man Oct 2012 #198

Oh Good Grief fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #200

Right. Straw Man Oct 2012 #203

Right fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #205

See Post #206 Straw Man Oct 2012 #207

under federal law gejohnston Oct 2012 #185

Eh? Straw Man Oct 2012 #186

Your so-called gun rights are already restricted, and legally so. nt mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #99

Oh, you mean a nice "benevolent" police state DonP Oct 2012 #10

Nice Try fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #106

... have proper sight alignment and picture, squeeze the trigger sarisataka Oct 2012 #17

Proper. Presenting paperwork and weapon to police. Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #20

Proper gun control would be: GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #21

I would also add gejohnston Oct 2012 #22

Good suggestion. I have edited my post to add that. N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #24

In addition to thoughts already posted... -..__... Oct 2012 #23

I'm with ya 'til 6 Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #30

Point by point discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #25

I'm not sure how you really feel. Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #73

With me... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #74

What do you mean by proper gun control? Clames Oct 2012 #26

Actually He Didn't fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #107

Of the six methods, ManiacJoe Oct 2012 #27

Article V of the Constitution awaits your action. PavePusher Oct 2012 #28

Is that the Royal "We" in your little fantasy world? MicaelS Oct 2012 #29

Good OP. This would go along way towards getting our rates of homicide and gun violence in line DanTex Oct 2012 #31

Until 1977 gejohnston Oct 2012 #32

Yeah NYC... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #55

What do we mean by not only no, but hell no? Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #33

Thanks, but no thanks. jeepnstein Oct 2012 #34

#5 isn't a bad idea.... ileus Oct 2012 #35

Too Rational and Reasonable for the Gun Clutching Crowd on This Board fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #36

Interestingly, most of what the OP proposes polls well over 50% nationally, not just among Dems. DanTex Oct 2012 #37

got a cite for that? gejohnston Oct 2012 #38

Here are a few polls, I've seen a few others with similar results. DanTex Oct 2012 #39

I thought you said gejohnston Oct 2012 #40

Well, most of what you think is false, so I guess this latest fantasy of yours no surprise. DanTex Oct 2012 #41

almost all of what you think you know, you don't gejohnston Oct 2012 #44

That could be said of most of what you know... Clames Oct 2012 #68

"Registration polls 66-32 in favor." Simo 1939_1940 Oct 2012 #97

That's right. Suck it up guys. nt mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #101

I Know fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #42

I've noticed that both on DU and in America in general DanTex Oct 2012 #43

More false consensus, Dan? Really? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #50

They're to the right of 5 Republican SCOTUS members. ellisonz Oct 2012 #69

what about the other four? gejohnston Oct 2012 #71

If you happen to run into any of these 'sovereign citizen' types here, *do* let us know... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #79

Agree fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #84

Do you? gejohnston Oct 2012 #46

On the Issue of Guns fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #47

Are you saying that reality isn't logical? N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #49

I'll Leave You to Decide fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #52

So as we sit here watching the smoking ruin that is the gun control movement in America hack89 Oct 2012 #82

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #85

Both hack89 Oct 2012 #86

The Democratic Party is window dressing... fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #87

Considering the complete lack of action on gun control hack89 Oct 2012 #89

Guess they didn't want to placate folks like you fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #90

Obama has been good to gun owners hack89 Oct 2012 #110

Agree on the First Statement which is not in conflict fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #166

What percentage of Dems do you think own guns? nt hack89 Oct 2012 #167

I have no idea..... fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #170

Yet they don't actually do anything. Why is that? hack89 Oct 2012 #180

Let's be fair do you think Obama would have signed that bill as stand alone legislation? NT Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #220

No hack89 Oct 2012 #221

Yes, here. This group has been hijacked by a bunch of Republican gun owners. nt mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #100

Wrong. Straw Man Oct 2012 #181

we'll give your reasonable gun control recommendations all the consideration they deserve. trouble.smith Oct 2012 #48

I'm Like What? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #103

... rrneck Oct 2012 #51

All his dreams are... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #56

Ain't that the goddamn truth. nt rrneck Oct 2012 #57

The best I can say is... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author aikoaiko Oct 2012 #53

Good luck with that. aikoaiko Oct 2012 #54

You lost me at "approval by the local authorities". cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #58

Better call your congressman. ileus Oct 2012 #59

Umm, yeah! discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #61

Great start! Spryguy Oct 2012 #62

NO glacierbay Oct 2012 #64

the California model is completly unreasonable gejohnston Oct 2012 #65

"Great start." That's the trouble with prohibitionism... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #76

I call it "Montoyaing" the argument, as in: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #80

No thanks. Pacafishmate Oct 2012 #63

You mean what do YOU mean by proper gun control? rl6214 Oct 2012 #66

Getting rid of ALL legal guns, will allow America to get rid of illegal guns & make the streets safe graham4anything Oct 2012 #102

Hope You'll Consider Returning to this Board fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #108

Here I am. Legal guns cause illegal guns to keep being on the street. graham4anything Oct 2012 #113

Please go away. Uncritical Michael Bloomberg fans like you betray what DU stands for. Here's why: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #130

getting rid of guns is a bi-partisan issue. Politics has nothing to do with it. graham4anything Oct 2012 #136

it is an authoritarian issue gejohnston Oct 2012 #139

No, the NRA and the people who want to ban abortion are one and the same graham4anything Oct 2012 #141

the NRA doesn't give a shit about abortion gejohnston Oct 2012 #147

except the NRA is for death, like the pro life group kills kind meek doctors in churches graham4anything Oct 2012 #149

is the Canadian NFA for death as well? gejohnston Oct 2012 #151

"he would back all dem senators if they would stop being bullied by the nra." Reeeeally? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #142

Well then your so called bi-partisan issue is anything but glacierbay Oct 2012 #144

legal guns are the reason you can't ban illegal guns. graham4anything Oct 2012 #146

seriously? gejohnston Oct 2012 #148

meek mayor mike didn't make his offer in 2004. It's old news. This is 2012 FORWARD graham4anything Oct 2012 #150

meek mayor mike? gejohnston Oct 2012 #152

Why do you keep bringing up the mafia? graham4anything Oct 2012 #154

Oh, you mean the mafia that's the Chicago govt. glacierbay Oct 2012 #157

you bring them up, you keep referring to gangs not me. graham4anything Oct 2012 #158

?????????????? glacierbay Oct 2012 #159

oops a faux pas in your haste to post graham4anything Oct 2012 #160

You're the one who answered your own post. glacierbay Oct 2012 #161

It really is more than words can say graham4anything Oct 2012 #162

not the mafia, gejohnston Oct 2012 #163

Why do you keep touting a guy that gave $1 million to the GOP? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #209

He is not running for office. He has the back of ANYONE who is on the side of this issue. graham4anything Oct 2012 #213

the reason he gave money to Scott Brown gejohnston Oct 2012 #215

good straw man again...life and death. is more important day to day issue graham4anything Oct 2012 #223

gun laws don't save lives gejohnston Oct 2012 #224

glad you agree with me. Therefore get rid of ALL guns from the street, start with legal, then graham4anything Oct 2012 #225

won't stop gejohnston Oct 2012 #226

you don't grasp what we want- NO GUNS in the street graham4anything Oct 2012 #227

you don't get it gejohnston Oct 2012 #228

you are funnier than Henny Youngman graham4anything Oct 2012 #229

and none of those guns are legal gejohnston Oct 2012 #232

And who will run these "machines that can tell when a gun is ON THE STREET"? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #231

the TSA does a good job...no incidents on planes since graham4anything Oct 2012 #234

Then where are the terrorist attacks in non-TSA 'guarded' areas? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #235

"Guns and national security perils trump all other issues." Then he should support Warren, not Brown friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #233

Horseshit. He is helping Republicans against Democrats, and you won't admit it. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #230

Wash, rinse, repeat. glacierbay Oct 2012 #153

the few of you are the only ones defending the NRA and guns graham4anything Oct 2012 #155

I'm not defending the NRA glacierbay Oct 2012 #156

Thank You fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #137

You want an America with metal detectors and guards at every public building? hack89 Oct 2012 #111

We are already traced and tracked through our credit cards graham4anything Oct 2012 #115

So I have to surrender every shred of my privacy hack89 Oct 2012 #117

why do you care what people think? You don't seem to be bothered what they think of your views graham4anything Oct 2012 #118

Considering you have never been safer your entire life hack89 Oct 2012 #121

Do you also support MMM's policy of stop and frisk to disarm criminals? nt hack89 Oct 2012 #112

if it's applied to ALL equally, I have no problem with it. BTW-it's the NYPD, an entity on their own graham4anything Oct 2012 #114

So the police can stop and search anyone at anytime? hack89 Oct 2012 #116

they have the gun and badge. One corrupt cop can do such. You can't stop a cop with a gun with your graham4anything Oct 2012 #119

What are you babbling about? hack89 Oct 2012 #120

the mayor appoints the police commissioner gejohnston Oct 2012 #122

I take it we may assume his other claims are of similar accuracy... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #126

Hahahahaha glacierbay Oct 2012 #127