Gun Control & RKBA

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166. Agree on the First Statement which is not in conflict

Reply to hack89 (Reply #110)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:44 PM

Oct 2012

Disagree on the Second

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What Do We Mean by Proper Gun Control? [View all] mikeb302000 Oct 2012 OP

I'm glad "we" are so honest ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #1

Errr. What do you mean "we"? bluerum Oct 2012 #2

I second the motion MrYikes Oct 2012 #3

Is this how they do it in Italy Mikey? glacierbay Oct 2012 #4

Maybe he can show us ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #5

Him and Mussolini would have been best buds. glacierbay Oct 2012 #12

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #14

"We all know." That's a laugh. You know nothing. nt mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #98

Well apparently I know a hell of a lot more than you do glacierbay Oct 2012 #109

100 to 1, huh? mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #212

No Mikey glacierbay Oct 2012 #214

Do You fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #216

Absolutely I do glacierbay Oct 2012 #217

Where does he say he wants them banned? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #219

I'll have to find it but it's been posted here many times glacierbay Oct 2012 #222

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #6

So? I still qualify. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #7

"Under your rules, would you qualify? Or are you a hidden criminal?" rl6214 Oct 2012 #67

Cap guns or airsoft? nt Remmah2 Oct 2012 #70

I see you have a rich fantasy life hack89 Oct 2012 #8

Items 3 and 4 have some merit. The others are unconstitutional. slackmaster Oct 2012 #9

None of the points are good ... Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #11

I'm inclined to agree ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #13

Exactly Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #16

Please bear in mind my perspective - I live in California slackmaster Oct 2012 #15

I use to live in California Db Owen97 Oct 2012 #18

The 10-day wait is pure harassment. I buy mostly C&R firearms. Getting my type 03 FFL... slackmaster Oct 2012 #19

harassment? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #45

What's the point in forcing a person who already has a gun to wait 10 days for another one? slackmaster Oct 2012 #72

Most Call it a Cooling Off Period fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #75

Read carefully, now. Straw Man Oct 2012 #77

Contrary to what you think fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #93

Huh? Straw Man Oct 2012 #95

Read Thread Again fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #105

Pretzel logic. IOW, "You can't have a new gun immediately because you might want to shoot someone... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #124

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #132

You're babbling now. Straw Man Oct 2012 #129

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #131

You don't think? Straw Man Oct 2012 #169

You Write fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #172

Wrong. Straw Man Oct 2012 #175

I get what he's saying. I don't agree with it but I do get it Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #218

Security theater; you seem to have missed the "a person who already has a gun" part. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #78

Yes, however, if a person ALREADY OWNS ONE OR MORE FIREARMS... slackmaster Oct 2012 #81

Then what's the problem? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #83

Pointless bureaucratic harassment for no good reason, that's what.... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #88

Oh But there is a good reason for the vast majority of us fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #91

Well, what is it? gejohnston Oct 2012 #92

Asked and answered fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #94

No -- not answered. Straw Man Oct 2012 #96

The One I Provided Will Save Lives fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #104

We reject it because you have provided no reason save your unsubstatiated claim... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #123

Right fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #135

Prove it. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #125

Prove What? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #134

No. It will not. Straw Man Oct 2012 #128

So fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #133

that's not how it works in a liberal democracy gejohnston Oct 2012 #138

That's Not? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #140

And who are you to claim the mantle of 'acting in the best interests of the people'? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #143

Hummm.......our Party Platform and US Law? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #164

but the people don't want it gejohnston Oct 2012 #145

Hemp and Guns fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #165

Wow, you really don't get it. Straw Man Oct 2012 #168

Get It? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #171

I guess you don't. Straw Man Oct 2012 #173

nah...I guess you don't fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #174

I have an idea ... Straw Man Oct 2012 #176

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #177

OK, I'll explain it. Straw Man Oct 2012 #178

See Post 179 fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #182

That's not an answer. Straw Man Oct 2012 #184

Who Brought Up the Comparison to Cars? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #189

There are two topics under discussion. Straw Man Oct 2012 #191

Guns- The Topic of this Board fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #193

OK, once more, carefully ... Straw Man Oct 2012 #195

RIGHT fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #197

Show me where I made an analogy. Straw Man Oct 2012 #199

Dude fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #201

Dude. Straw Man Oct 2012 #202

Right....because drivers have more to do with guns than cars fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #204

Let's add "straw man" to the list ... Straw Man Oct 2012 #206

LOL fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #208

Don't you ever get tired ... Straw Man Oct 2012 #210

You are right fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #211

SO...... fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #179

Cars? Straw Man Oct 2012 #183

So fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #187

... and ... Straw Man Oct 2012 #190

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #192

Who Brought Up Cars to Begin With and Compare them to Guns fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #188

Wrong again. Straw Man Oct 2012 #194

WRONG fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #196

You're making a fool of yourself now. Straw Man Oct 2012 #198

Oh Good Grief fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #200

Right. Straw Man Oct 2012 #203

Right fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #205

See Post #206 Straw Man Oct 2012 #207

under federal law gejohnston Oct 2012 #185

Eh? Straw Man Oct 2012 #186

Your so-called gun rights are already restricted, and legally so. nt mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #99

Oh, you mean a nice "benevolent" police state DonP Oct 2012 #10

Nice Try fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #106

... have proper sight alignment and picture, squeeze the trigger sarisataka Oct 2012 #17

Proper. Presenting paperwork and weapon to police. Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #20

Proper gun control would be: GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #21

I would also add gejohnston Oct 2012 #22

Good suggestion. I have edited my post to add that. N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #24

In addition to thoughts already posted... -..__... Oct 2012 #23

I'm with ya 'til 6 Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #30

Point by point discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #25

I'm not sure how you really feel. Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #73

With me... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #74

What do you mean by proper gun control? Clames Oct 2012 #26

Actually He Didn't fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #107

Of the six methods, ManiacJoe Oct 2012 #27

Article V of the Constitution awaits your action. PavePusher Oct 2012 #28

Is that the Royal "We" in your little fantasy world? MicaelS Oct 2012 #29

Good OP. This would go along way towards getting our rates of homicide and gun violence in line DanTex Oct 2012 #31

Until 1977 gejohnston Oct 2012 #32

Yeah NYC... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #55

What do we mean by not only no, but hell no? Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #33

Thanks, but no thanks. jeepnstein Oct 2012 #34

#5 isn't a bad idea.... ileus Oct 2012 #35

Too Rational and Reasonable for the Gun Clutching Crowd on This Board fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #36

Interestingly, most of what the OP proposes polls well over 50% nationally, not just among Dems. DanTex Oct 2012 #37

got a cite for that? gejohnston Oct 2012 #38

Here are a few polls, I've seen a few others with similar results. DanTex Oct 2012 #39

I thought you said gejohnston Oct 2012 #40

Well, most of what you think is false, so I guess this latest fantasy of yours no surprise. DanTex Oct 2012 #41

almost all of what you think you know, you don't gejohnston Oct 2012 #44

That could be said of most of what you know... Clames Oct 2012 #68

"Registration polls 66-32 in favor." Simo 1939_1940 Oct 2012 #97

That's right. Suck it up guys. nt mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #101

I Know fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #42

I've noticed that both on DU and in America in general DanTex Oct 2012 #43

More false consensus, Dan? Really? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #50

They're to the right of 5 Republican SCOTUS members. ellisonz Oct 2012 #69

what about the other four? gejohnston Oct 2012 #71

If you happen to run into any of these 'sovereign citizen' types here, *do* let us know... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #79

Agree fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #84

Do you? gejohnston Oct 2012 #46

On the Issue of Guns fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #47

Are you saying that reality isn't logical? N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #49

I'll Leave You to Decide fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #52

So as we sit here watching the smoking ruin that is the gun control movement in America hack89 Oct 2012 #82

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #85

Both hack89 Oct 2012 #86

The Democratic Party is window dressing... fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #87

Considering the complete lack of action on gun control hack89 Oct 2012 #89

Guess they didn't want to placate folks like you fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #90

Obama has been good to gun owners hack89 Oct 2012 #110

Agree on the First Statement which is not in conflict fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #166

What percentage of Dems do you think own guns? nt hack89 Oct 2012 #167

I have no idea..... fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #170

Yet they don't actually do anything. Why is that? hack89 Oct 2012 #180

Let's be fair do you think Obama would have signed that bill as stand alone legislation? NT Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #220

No hack89 Oct 2012 #221

Yes, here. This group has been hijacked by a bunch of Republican gun owners. nt mikeb302000 Oct 2012 #100

Wrong. Straw Man Oct 2012 #181

we'll give your reasonable gun control recommendations all the consideration they deserve. trouble.smith Oct 2012 #48

I'm Like What? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #103

... rrneck Oct 2012 #51

All his dreams are... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #56

Ain't that the goddamn truth. nt rrneck Oct 2012 #57

The best I can say is... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author aikoaiko Oct 2012 #53

Good luck with that. aikoaiko Oct 2012 #54

You lost me at "approval by the local authorities". cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #58

Better call your congressman. ileus Oct 2012 #59

Umm, yeah! discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #61

Great start! Spryguy Oct 2012 #62

NO glacierbay Oct 2012 #64

the California model is completly unreasonable gejohnston Oct 2012 #65

"Great start." That's the trouble with prohibitionism... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #76

I call it "Montoyaing" the argument, as in: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #80

No thanks. Pacafishmate Oct 2012 #63

You mean what do YOU mean by proper gun control? rl6214 Oct 2012 #66

Getting rid of ALL legal guns, will allow America to get rid of illegal guns & make the streets safe graham4anything Oct 2012 #102

Hope You'll Consider Returning to this Board fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #108

Here I am. Legal guns cause illegal guns to keep being on the street. graham4anything Oct 2012 #113

Please go away. Uncritical Michael Bloomberg fans like you betray what DU stands for. Here's why: friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #130

getting rid of guns is a bi-partisan issue. Politics has nothing to do with it. graham4anything Oct 2012 #136

it is an authoritarian issue gejohnston Oct 2012 #139

No, the NRA and the people who want to ban abortion are one and the same graham4anything Oct 2012 #141

the NRA doesn't give a shit about abortion gejohnston Oct 2012 #147

except the NRA is for death, like the pro life group kills kind meek doctors in churches graham4anything Oct 2012 #149

is the Canadian NFA for death as well? gejohnston Oct 2012 #151

"he would back all dem senators if they would stop being bullied by the nra." Reeeeally? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #142

Well then your so called bi-partisan issue is anything but glacierbay Oct 2012 #144

legal guns are the reason you can't ban illegal guns. graham4anything Oct 2012 #146

seriously? gejohnston Oct 2012 #148

meek mayor mike didn't make his offer in 2004. It's old news. This is 2012 FORWARD graham4anything Oct 2012 #150

meek mayor mike? gejohnston Oct 2012 #152

Why do you keep bringing up the mafia? graham4anything Oct 2012 #154

Oh, you mean the mafia that's the Chicago govt. glacierbay Oct 2012 #157

you bring them up, you keep referring to gangs not me. graham4anything Oct 2012 #158

?????????????? glacierbay Oct 2012 #159

oops a faux pas in your haste to post graham4anything Oct 2012 #160

You're the one who answered your own post. glacierbay Oct 2012 #161

It really is more than words can say graham4anything Oct 2012 #162

not the mafia, gejohnston Oct 2012 #163

Why do you keep touting a guy that gave $1 million to the GOP? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #209

He is not running for office. He has the back of ANYONE who is on the side of this issue. graham4anything Oct 2012 #213

the reason he gave money to Scott Brown gejohnston Oct 2012 #215

good straw man again...life and death. is more important day to day issue graham4anything Oct 2012 #223

gun laws don't save lives gejohnston Oct 2012 #224

glad you agree with me. Therefore get rid of ALL guns from the street, start with legal, then graham4anything Oct 2012 #225

won't stop gejohnston Oct 2012 #226

you don't grasp what we want- NO GUNS in the street graham4anything Oct 2012 #227

you don't get it gejohnston Oct 2012 #228

you are funnier than Henny Youngman graham4anything Oct 2012 #229

and none of those guns are legal gejohnston Oct 2012 #232

And who will run these "machines that can tell when a gun is ON THE STREET"? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #231

the TSA does a good job...no incidents on planes since graham4anything Oct 2012 #234

Then where are the terrorist attacks in non-TSA 'guarded' areas? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #235

"Guns and national security perils trump all other issues." Then he should support Warren, not Brown friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #233

Horseshit. He is helping Republicans against Democrats, and you won't admit it. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #230

Wash, rinse, repeat. glacierbay Oct 2012 #153

the few of you are the only ones defending the NRA and guns graham4anything Oct 2012 #155

I'm not defending the NRA glacierbay Oct 2012 #156

Thank You fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #137

You want an America with metal detectors and guards at every public building? hack89 Oct 2012 #111

We are already traced and tracked through our credit cards graham4anything Oct 2012 #115

So I have to surrender every shred of my privacy hack89 Oct 2012 #117

why do you care what people think? You don't seem to be bothered what they think of your views graham4anything Oct 2012 #118

Considering you have never been safer your entire life hack89 Oct 2012 #121

Do you also support MMM's policy of stop and frisk to disarm criminals? nt hack89 Oct 2012 #112

if it's applied to ALL equally, I have no problem with it. BTW-it's the NYPD, an entity on their own graham4anything Oct 2012 #114

So the police can stop and search anyone at anytime? hack89 Oct 2012 #116

they have the gun and badge. One corrupt cop can do such. You can't stop a cop with a gun with your graham4anything Oct 2012 #119

What are you babbling about? hack89 Oct 2012 #120

the mayor appoints the police commissioner gejohnston Oct 2012 #122

I take it we may assume his other claims are of similar accuracy... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #126

Hahahahaha glacierbay Oct 2012 #127