Can any PRO Gun-Control person on this forum name one Gun Control WIN in the last 3 years?

[SteveW]

87. The question was asked and I answered it...

If you go back 40 or so years (about how long the Democrats have been constructing their "liberal" issue of gun-control), you will find little animosity from both gun-controllers and pro-2A folks alike. (You really had to look long and hard to find someone spewing off about "liberal-socialist gun-banners," etc.)

But in the 1980s you began to see the spew -- little better than courthouse bathroom wall scrawling -- coming mainly from gun-controllers. Read Kates and Kleck's The Great American Gun Debate, and you will find this "extremist" language coming not from anonymous trolls on an obscure web site, but from academics, policy-makers, major editorialists, editorial cartoonists, politicians, etc. And MSM was only too-willing to oblige this smearing of tens of millions of gun owners. What gun-controllers didn't realize was that the support for the Second Amendment was WIDESPREAD and DEEP, hence the massive response to gun-control schemes. What gun-controllers perhaps don't want to admit is that they have little popular base. This is for one salient reason: Gun-control/prohibition is an elitist outlook, one which says: You cannot have guns to defend yourself, but I can have them because I am more worthy (the Feinsteins, the Bloombergs, the Daleys, not to mention Hollywood power-elites like Jodie Foster, who had armed bodyguards with her. At Yale. On Campus).

Certainly, the bad language is now taken up by pro-2A folks because there are far more of them. And as hard as it is for some controllers to admit, these flannel-mouthed 2A-defenders have, as Patton exclaimed "...read your book!"

They know what was said about them, they know what most gun-controllers' agenda is (prohibition), and they know how to defeat them.

I think the best 'sane' way for the Democratic Party to approach this issue is to DROP gun-control from the Platform, returning (on this issue) to a pre-1968 status. I don't think the rank 'n' file Democratic Party members want anything more to do with "gun-control." But that's not the problem: This 'outlook' is zealously held by elites, many of whom are within the pilothouse of the Democratic Party and have no intention of getting out.

It is a worthy discussion, the cultural reasons for the rise of the gun-control/prohibition outlook. They are entwined with elitist self-interest, a not-so-logical extension of the morally passionate 60s Civil Rights Era, animosity toward men, compassion as substitute for policy-making, and a complete misreading of Gandhian non-violence.

Elitist Democrats set out on a quick-fix culture war and lost. Big-time.