Gun Control & RKBA

slackmaster

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63. Dan, are you suggesting using something other than purely objective criteria to determine...

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 12:38 PM

Nov 2012

...who can and who cannot buy a firearm?

A person who hasn't been convicted of a serious crime, been subjected to a restraining order, been discharged dishonorably from the military, etc. would pass the background check even if the data feeds that go into the database were 100% reliable, complete, and accurate.

I agree that there are people out in the world who I would call criminals who haven't been caught by the justice system, but going to a system where an individual who is merely suspected of being some kind of bad person can be denied the exercise of a civil right constitutes a slope that is, at least to me, obviously very slippery. What would come next, not letting people board airplanes because they are on some kind of secret suspect list with no legal recourse? (Oh yeah, we already have that thanks to the George W. Bush administration.)

What exactly are you suggesting here?

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Many gun owners are hidden criminals. [View all] DanTex Nov 2012 OP

-1 darkangel218 Nov 2012 #1

The "bad guys" are not in the system. The "bad guys" obtain weapons from many sources. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #2

As soon as you can quantify "many" then we can talk hack89 Nov 2012 #3

Isnt it Meta where you go and complain about locked threads? darkangel218 Nov 2012 #4

I figured I'd keep it "in the family". DanTex Nov 2012 #5

Im not the host of this group, i trust they know what theyre doing. darkangel218 Nov 2012 #9

Yes it should be glacierbay Nov 2012 #10

I think they're tired of him, lol. nt Union Scribe Nov 2012 #73

We all know why you're starting this thread glacierbay Nov 2012 #6

It's "you're". DanTex Nov 2012 #7

No it's not glacierbay Nov 2012 #11

LOL. Priceless! Definitely gonna bookmark this one! DanTex Nov 2012 #12

My mistake glacierbay Nov 2012 #15

LOL. So you thought my post #7 was referencing your post #10? DanTex Nov 2012 #18

Look right above post 6 genius. glacierbay Nov 2012 #23

LOL. Look at your post #11 -- you spelled it "your" again. DanTex Nov 2012 #25

Because the rules of engagement require no admission of error. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #27

Ohhhhhhhhhhh glacierbay Nov 2012 #30

I purposely left it like that so you would have glacierbay Nov 2012 #29

Ah, the good ol' "I did it on purpose"!!! DanTex Nov 2012 #31

Yep. nt. glacierbay Nov 2012 #36

Is this the kick you were looking for this morning? darkangel218 Nov 2012 #17

PS. It's "grammar". DanTex Nov 2012 #13

Wow glacierbay Nov 2012 #16

You gotta admit, "I certainly don't need a grammer lesson from you" is pretty funny... DanTex Nov 2012 #19

Let me guess glacierbay Nov 2012 #24

Host cant lock it if it's on topic. nt rrneck Nov 2012 #61

Well before this one gets locked too... Clames Nov 2012 #8

There is no way the original post (not this op) was not in the sop. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #32

well, well--look who makes the rare appearence to GC&RKBA Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #40

You all have nothing but personal attacks. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #43

How did he attack you? He even called you Mr :) darkangel218 Nov 2012 #46

He? Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #48

She then? darkangel218 Nov 2012 #50

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #14

It shouldn't have been locked. He expresses his opinion, you express yours. DanTex Nov 2012 #20

It got locked for good reason(s). Clames Nov 2012 #35

The gungeon is not a safe haven for pro-gun people. DanTex Nov 2012 #42

It's not a safe haven for wannabe troll hunters... Clames Nov 2012 #52

I expect that's what he's gonna do glacierbay Nov 2012 #21

LMAO!!!! darkangel218 Nov 2012 #22

it's the indian not the arrows texasmomof3 Nov 2012 #26

Outstanding post!!!!!!!!! glacierbay Nov 2012 #34

The Soviet Union? LOL. You're going to fit right in with the extremists in here! DanTex Nov 2012 #37

Google Switzerland and gun laws texasmomof3 Nov 2012 #49

Switzerland does not have the lowest gun crime rate in the world. DanTex Nov 2012 #54

And the answer is? Clames Nov 2012 #51

Posts like this should be rec'd on their own. Clames Nov 2012 #38

Welcome! discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #44

The real point... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #28

Minority Report At Your Service. Locking. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #33

The Precogs are never wrong. But, occasionally... they do disagree. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2012 #41

I assume it was locked because... krispos42 Nov 2012 #39

You're kidding. You are actually supporting the locking? DanTex Nov 2012 #45

Then I suggest we review all locked OPs because I think I have had several that Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #47

No, it doesn't deal with gun control laws. krispos42 Nov 2012 #59

Of course it does. DanTex Nov 2012 #60

YOUR post does krispos42 Nov 2012 #64

So what law(s) would you propose to allow the background check oneshooter Nov 2012 #65

The Astute Reader(TM) will note that DanTex put this thread up just so he could whine about it... slackmaster Nov 2012 #74

You would be correct. shadowrider Nov 2012 #55

Just a pile of flamebait in the RKBA group today. What's the deal? nt rDigital Nov 2012 #53

That's exactly what it is. nt. glacierbay Nov 2012 #56

OH THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS SIMPLE fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #57

Locking shadowrider Nov 2012 #58

A background check is NEVER GOING TO CATCH EVERYONE. Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #62

Not exactly russ1943 Nov 2012 #67

That is really not the point of Kates' work. Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #68

It was exactly my point in posting. russ1943 Nov 2012 #69

under federal law gejohnston Nov 2012 #70

Are you drunk or high? russ1943 Nov 2012 #71

Not at all, gejohnston Nov 2012 #72

You are right. Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #75

Dan, are you suggesting using something other than purely objective criteria to determine... slackmaster Nov 2012 #63

Guilty until proven innocent? Straw Man Nov 2012 #66