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In reply to the discussion: 5-year justifiable homicide levels remain steady [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)54. I don't know of anyplace that allows you to shoot or stab shoplifters and looters
Last edited Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:46 AM - Edit history (1)
but we agree that is a bad idea. I think every state should adopt Wyoming's Castle Doctrine,
Wyo. Stat. § 6-2-602 (2012)
§ 6-2-602. Use of force in self defense.
(a) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or serious bodily injury to himself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or serious bodily injury to another if:
(i) The intruder against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, another's home or habitation or, if that intruder had removed or was attempting to remove another against his will from his home or habitation; and
(ii) The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring.
(b) The presumption set forth in subsection (a) of this section does not apply if:
(i) The person against whom the defensive force is used has a right to be in or is a lawful resident of the home or habitation, such as an owner, lessee or titleholder, and there is not an injunction for protection from domestic violence or a written pretrial supervision order of no contact against that person;
(ii) The person sought to be removed is a child or grandchild, or is otherwise in the lawful custody or under the lawful guardianship of, the person against whom the defensive force is used; or
(iii) The person against whom the defensive force is used is a peace officer who enters or attempts to enter another's home or habitation in the performance of his official duties.
(c) A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter another's home or habitation is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.
(d) As used in this section:
(i) "Habitation" means any structure which is designed or adapted for overnight accommodation, including, but not limited to, buildings, modular units, trailers, campers and tents;
(ii) "Home" means any occupied residential dwelling place.
HISTORY: (Laws 2008, ch. 109, § 1; 2011, ch. 142, § 1.)
§ 6-2-602. Use of force in self defense.
(a) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or serious bodily injury to himself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or serious bodily injury to another if:
(i) The intruder against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, another's home or habitation or, if that intruder had removed or was attempting to remove another against his will from his home or habitation; and
(ii) The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring.
(b) The presumption set forth in subsection (a) of this section does not apply if:
(i) The person against whom the defensive force is used has a right to be in or is a lawful resident of the home or habitation, such as an owner, lessee or titleholder, and there is not an injunction for protection from domestic violence or a written pretrial supervision order of no contact against that person;
(ii) The person sought to be removed is a child or grandchild, or is otherwise in the lawful custody or under the lawful guardianship of, the person against whom the defensive force is used; or
(iii) The person against whom the defensive force is used is a peace officer who enters or attempts to enter another's home or habitation in the performance of his official duties.
(c) A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter another's home or habitation is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.
(d) As used in this section:
(i) "Habitation" means any structure which is designed or adapted for overnight accommodation, including, but not limited to, buildings, modular units, trailers, campers and tents;
(ii) "Home" means any occupied residential dwelling place.
HISTORY: (Laws 2008, ch. 109, § 1; 2011, ch. 142, § 1.)
A homeless person's tent or refrigerator box has the same protection as Dick Cheney's Mcmansion. From what I understand, the law required you to retreat from your home. While Wyoming does not have SYG, it does provide civil immunity if you prove your case outside of the home. It also provides battered woman syndrome as an affirmative defense for justifiable homicide.
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Thanks for references. I don't see an increase of 16 syg uses in 4 years as sifnificant.
Eleanors38
Nov 2012
#63
Justifiable hoomicides are given in numbers. Murder rate is a percentage per 100,000.
geckosfeet
Nov 2012
#5
Considering that the incidence of horrific mass shootings seem to be increasing
geckosfeet
Nov 2012
#4
It's easier to change the clock or switch zones than getting up earlier.
Starboard Tack
Nov 2012
#28
Interesting. Maybe people are more willing to defend themselves without the threat of bankruptcy?
Atypical Liberal
Nov 2012
#43
"Of course, you don't actually believe people do or should defend themselves outside the home."
Starboard Tack
Nov 2012
#50
I don't know of anyplace that allows you to shoot or stab shoplifters and looters
gejohnston
Nov 2012
#54
I suppose people are now less willing to let criminals slide now that they don't risk financial ruin
Atypical Liberal
Nov 2012
#55