Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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176. actually they are

Reply to Dog Gone at Penigma (Reply #174)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 03:18 PM

Nov 2012

when you look at wealth inequality, we are closer to Mexico than the others. Since there is a stronger correlation of wealth inequality with various social ills, including violent crime, that is far more relevant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/08/01/620401/study-income-inequality-homicides/?mobile=nc
http://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/why/evidence

If gun laws are that relevant, then what does "level of development", which refers to economics, matter? Without a good explanation, it sounds like cherry picking. Besides, the UN defines South Africa as developed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developing_country
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=68563

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Walmart is the largest firearms dealer in US; has roughly one-a-week firearms incidents [View all] Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 OP

Walmarts only have class one FFL gejohnston Nov 2012 #1

amazing the gun people seem to be on call 24/7/365 to respond to any anti-gun thread graham4anything Nov 2012 #5

like airplanes, cars, electrical codes, gejohnston Nov 2012 #9

Yes, we are always here, just like anti-gunners. NewMoonTherian Nov 2012 #10

We're here to counter the lies glacierbay Nov 2012 #21

Nobody lies but the NRA(the worlds #1 super lobby group pac graham4anything Nov 2012 #23

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight glacierbay Nov 2012 #29

You say "Nobody lies but the NRA." Sure they do. Many anti-gunners create false straw-men. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #76

Your irrelevency must be a great comfort to you. PavePusher Nov 2012 #31

not at all Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #63

O.K., I'm confused about what you are trying to say. PavePusher Nov 2012 #65

he is saying that Wal Mart pencil whips NICS checks and 4473s gejohnston Nov 2012 #66

Your backing of the confederate army/dixie flag on a different thread makes it all quite clear graham4anything Nov 2012 #74

Word salad. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #77

My "backing" of WHAT?! Citation, please. n/t PavePusher Nov 2012 #83

I love that NRA soundbyte word "citation". Spent 8 years on a board with NRA folk using it. graham4anything Nov 2012 #85

So, you can not quote where I defend the Confederate flag? n/t PavePusher Nov 2012 #86

Is "link" a NRA "soundbyte" also? Marengo Nov 2012 #87

Cite to support your claim - or you're a fucking liar and a confused one at that DonP Nov 2012 #88

link provided. You will see 2 posters names on this thread(its a long one) about the confederacy graham4anything Nov 2012 #90

I did not see anything about Pave supporting the flag gejohnston Nov 2012 #91

At no time in that thread did I "back... the confederate army/dixie flag". PavePusher Nov 2012 #92

100% amnesty and citizenship for all immediately. Just like President Lincoln did after the war. graham4anything Nov 2012 #94

No one's bullying you, and you demean actual bullying victims. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #95

Interesting deflection, but not relevent to your accusations of me. PavePusher Nov 2012 #105

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #110

You have not yet quoted my "backing of the confederate army/dixie flag on a different thread".... PavePusher Nov 2012 #111

hate to break it to you gejohnston Nov 2012 #108

Clearly history and honesty are not his forte DonP Nov 2012 #113

You are being too kind to him ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #115

It's a legal word, mein Herr. Callisto32 Nov 2012 #126

Your assertion of Pave defending the Confederate flag is a lie. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #93

the posts made by others are most certainly NOT defending the North and my President Lincoln graham4anything Nov 2012 #96

You're both offensively wrong and avoiding the truth of it. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #97

My young age? I sure wish that were true. Youth is wasted on the young as Ralph Kramden said graham4anything Nov 2012 #98

edit to above- graham4anything Nov 2012 #99

Excellent. Your teacher taught regurgitation, not substance. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #101

No, actually quite the opposite. You have your opinion, I will keep mind. graham4anything Nov 2012 #102

Wrong again. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #103

There are two sides to all wars. graham4anything Nov 2012 #104

I'll break it down very slowly for you. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #100

You do know that Lincoln was a Repub. oneshooter Nov 2012 #106

things have changed. Like the Whigs. Todays Dems are Yesterdays Repubs. (and vice versa). graham4anything Nov 2012 #107

Your deflection is irrelevent to the lies you have told. PavePusher Nov 2012 #109

He/She is gone from the thread, locked out DonP Nov 2012 #118

who Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #189

And there is a Mayor Mike worshiper available at all times to incoherently jump into threads ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #33

You're an extreme prohibitionist. We get it.nt Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #41

not at all Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #167

the burden is on you to prove gejohnston Nov 2012 #170

Before divvying up the "facts," this one stands out: I was responding to Graham4... Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #188

Samuel Adams had people just like you in mind when he said ... DonP Nov 2012 #52

+1000000 glacierbay Nov 2012 #54

Nonsense Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #168

Not even close DonP Nov 2012 #181

Still singing the praises of a right wing anti-labor asshole eh? Union Scribe Nov 2012 #71

Amazing, the 24/7/365 prohibitionist postings... Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #151

You mean these gun people? glacierbay Nov 2012 #153

And yet they do Baldr Odinson Dec 2012 #195

Easy explaination sarisataka Dec 2012 #196

notice I said "assault rifles or other machine guns" gejohnston Dec 2012 #197

News Flash ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #2

What does a bank being robbed in a Wally World have to do with gun sales at that store? oneshooter Nov 2012 #3

Stop making sense Berserker Nov 2012 #8

There are air bubbles chuffing in my toilet, that's what! Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #42

carry pattern Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #60

it is possible for someone to buy a gun at the store, and then use it at the store for a robbery. gejohnston Nov 2012 #61

That's got to be the stupidest post ever. rrneck Nov 2012 #64

Those dots can't be connected..... PavePusher Nov 2012 #68

"WalMart is notorious as the first place people with newly issued carry Jenoch Nov 2012 #75

When you purchase a long arm at Wall Mart. oneshooter Nov 2012 #78

What's the point of your post? tortoise1956 Nov 2012 #4

BAN Walmart parking lots! Berserker Nov 2012 #6

" If you don't want to DIE FASTER carry a weapon to protect yourself I do." darkangel218 Nov 2012 #7

Real women & men walk away alive from a fight.Guns only inflate a situation. graham4anything Nov 2012 #12

Has Penicide suddenly become a public epidemic? tortoise1956 Nov 2012 #13

The people were going to rob themselves? At gunpoint? Sounds like the sheriff graham4anything Nov 2012 #14

Sorry, I assumed you had a basic understanding English-language grammar tortoise1956 Nov 2012 #17

I just spent 2 weeks without electricity on a dark block and guess what? graham4anything Nov 2012 #18

Seriously, sorry to hear that tortoise1956 Nov 2012 #20

electric came back on, and a few days ago cable/internet, but many still much worse off in NJ/NY graham4anything Nov 2012 #27

How did you watch I love Lucy with no electricity? NT Trunk Monkey Nov 2012 #32

on my battery operated DVD player graham4anything Nov 2012 #37

Glad to hear you made it. NT Trunk Monkey Nov 2012 #51

Lucille Ball ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #36

You cannot say what her opinion would be today though. graham4anything Nov 2012 #38

Hertz Doughnut holdencaufield Nov 2012 #40

Wow glacierbay Nov 2012 #26

It was actually about racism and the movie a satire on the old west mentality graham4anything Nov 2012 #39

it was a satire of western movies gejohnston Nov 2012 #50

of course it did. Mel Brooks never keeps his movies to one single subject. graham4anything Nov 2012 #55

It has been years since I've watched it gejohnston Nov 2012 #57

No, but a pubic epidemic may occur.nt Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #43

Self-defense stories tend to be like exaggerated fishing stories Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #159

rabidly? gejohnston Nov 2012 #164

penis shootings? yes they're rare Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #169

so? gejohnston Nov 2012 #171

No one here Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #173

you have not gejohnston Nov 2012 #178

I always run from a fight Berserker Nov 2012 #22

That's kinda hard on the twins... tortoise1956 Nov 2012 #28

Real women & men walk away alive from a fight ?? Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #24

Another supporter of throwing yourself on the mercy of perp ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #34

About a million and a half people every year would disagree with you. Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #45

Re: Real women & men walk away alive from a fight. Trunk Monkey Nov 2012 #53

Yeah, because they have a fast draw or fast feet. n/t krispos42 Nov 2012 #59

One more straw-man. Can't you come up with something new? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #79

NOT a strawman Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #161

some countries do gejohnston Nov 2012 #166

Not really very good comparisons Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #174

actually they are gejohnston Nov 2012 #176

Chuck e Cheese is another crime/criminal assault hotbed for some reason... -..__... Nov 2012 #11

Issue beans to all employees n/t Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #15

They'll be blazing away for sure. Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #44

Ban young poor parents who can't afford to take their offspring anywhere better slackmaster Nov 2012 #47

"men walked into the bank armed with pistols and demanded cash" Eagle_Eye Nov 2012 #16

they were armed with rifles. n/t Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #48

Finally their 100 pack of federal 223 went down 5 bucks. ileus Nov 2012 #19

what part of Bank do you not understand? Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #25

What does a bank robbery have to do with WalMart selling firearms? PavePusher Nov 2012 #30

He has been worse... ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #35

People don't rob Walmart bank branches because the store sells guns slackmaster Nov 2012 #46

Thank you Willie Sutton. A professionlal stating the obvious truth Ntxt DonP Nov 2012 #56

So bank robbery is now classified as a "firearm incident" ileus Nov 2012 #49

would you like this firearms incident better? Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #62

I'm not sure what you want WalMart to do about criminals. PavePusher Nov 2012 #67

There are lots of things they could do Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #163

what illegal conduct? gejohnston Nov 2012 #165

WalMart was NOT complying with the requirements for proper gun sales Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #172

what requirements and by required by whom? gejohnston Nov 2012 #177

Not a problem Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #179

non binding agreements, gejohnston Nov 2012 #180

WalMart has a long history of corrupt practices, and should not be taken at face value Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #183

who said I was a defender of Wal Mart gejohnston Nov 2012 #184

Interesting goal-post moving. You may want to let the rest of us catch up..... PavePusher Nov 2012 #186

"failing to comply with legal provisions" PavePusher Nov 2012 #185

To your 3 points. Glassunion Nov 2012 #182

Another non-story that has zero to do with walmart. ileus Nov 2012 #69

Sigh ... Straw Man Nov 2012 #70

Recced your own blog spam. rrneck Nov 2012 #58

Actually they average better than then rest. Glassunion Nov 2012 #72

You *had* to go and derail a perfectly good rant by doing the math. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #73

except that most of the firearms accidents, injuries, and killings are not only aout bank robberies Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #134

they occur in the parking lots gejohnston Nov 2012 #143

"other big box retailers do NOT have this kind of frequency PavePusher Nov 2012 #148

and here is another gun incident at another WalMart Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #80

attention walmart shoppers. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #81

And you still haven't made a connection between a common business... PavePusher Nov 2012 #84

nothing to do with being robbed more frequently or not; you appear to be deliberately missing it Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #114

You've given no evidence that supports your assertions. PavePusher Nov 2012 #116

Haven't figured out yet that 'anecdote' isn't synonymous with 'data' yet, have you? friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #117

I'm waiting for any data from you Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #120

Do you only focus on Wal Mart or do you also gejohnston Nov 2012 #121

So, what is it about Wal Mart that attracts firearms tomfoolery? nt rrneck Nov 2012 #122

Nothing to do with the fact they have 4,200+ stores in the US, eh? friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #123

Your post is like a frickin Henny Youngman punch line as far as data goes. Except Henny was funny. DonP Nov 2012 #119

At least that event actually happened at Walmart. ManiacJoe Nov 2012 #89

Oh crap - it's ... "Posted by Baldr Odinson" - sound familiar? DonP Nov 2012 #82

I don't think so Glassunion Nov 2012 #112

*All* the posts are by Baldr Odinson- It's MikeyB, for sure friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #124

wrong again Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #125

That's not what it says on the blog. All posts are by "Baldr Odinson"... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #128

so? Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #129

Interesting; half of the OP is undeniable-the other half, unprovable. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #130

Back on DU2 rrneck Nov 2012 #141

Excellent observation... ileus Nov 2012 #127

wrong again 2 Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #131

Oooooooooooooookay. ileus Nov 2012 #154

Oh, look........and here is another one Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #132

Once again you conflate 'number' and 'rate' friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #135

all Wal Marts combined? gejohnston Nov 2012 #139

Leaps of logical faith. Glassunion Nov 2012 #133

No other comparable retailer Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #136

Math is not your friend- this is "Concealed Carry Killers' redux... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #137

even WalMart admits they have a problem Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #138

but they refuse to do anything because it will not provide security gejohnston Nov 2012 #140

They're the largest retailer in the US, they're going to have more crime than any other chain. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #145

you are not actually looking at the cause gejohnston Nov 2012 #142

No other comparable retailer? Glassunion Nov 2012 #144

Costco isn't even close Baldr Odinson Nov 2012 #146

Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #147

No, not even close ... Straw Man Nov 2012 #149

Not an excuse Baldr Odinson Dec 2012 #193

I actually agree with you on this gejohnston Dec 2012 #198

49 shootings at 4200+ Walmarts. That's about 1 for every 85 Walmarts. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #155

Comparable retailers? Straw Man Nov 2012 #150

Nice try, but off the mark. Baldr Odinson Dec 2012 #192

Yours is the rawest form of prohibitionist animosity... Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #152

What does WM do to encourage concealed/open carry in their stores? GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #207

I want to help Berserker Nov 2012 #156

you missed this one from 2008 gejohnston Nov 2012 #157

In the artical Berserker Nov 2012 #158

there are the other non-gun killings at WalMarts Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #160

how classist of you gejohnston Nov 2012 #162

4-2 to leave this post. Thread in Meta... msanthrope Nov 2012 #175

Here is the synopsis Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #187

Well said! Baldr Odinson Dec 2012 #194

Walmart shoplifter shot - update Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #190

Color me confused... sarisataka Dec 2012 #191

Do YOU think this guy, whether a real cop or a rent a cop, should be shooting shoplifters? Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #199

Seriously -- what more proof do you need here? Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #200

it had nothing to do with public safety gejohnston Dec 2012 #202

for example? gejohnston Dec 2012 #201

they have a long list of law suits that they have settled, admitting guilt - notably the examples I Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #203

law suits are about money gejohnston Dec 2012 #205

there are still settlement Dog Gone at Penigma Dec 2012 #206

there doesn't have to be wrong doing in a civil suit gejohnston Dec 2012 #208

That I can fully agree with sarisataka Dec 2012 #204