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In reply to the discussion: Walmart is the largest firearms dealer in US; has roughly one-a-week firearms incidents [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)184. who said I was a defender of Wal Mart
WalMart, compared to say CostCo, or other big box stores is a bad corporate citizen.
I totally agree
While they SAY they go above and beyond they have yet to live up to any of these agreements. They also have a shit load of lawyers they throw at legal battles. Multiple judges who have had cases involving WalMart have described their legal representation as suffeing from a corporate culture of perjury and law breaking - on the record.
It wouldn't surprise me, that is true of a lot of multi national corporations.
They have been in trouble for corporate corruption internationally - most recently in a big scandal in Mexico, they have been prosecuted for forcing employees to work 'off the clock' - to work unpaid - to keep their jobs, they have violated every kind of law and statute and ordinance you can think of, and they made what you called a 'non-binding' agreement as part of a settlement in litigation for wrongful deaths as a result of their gun selling practices, and then failed to honor that agreement. The routinely hire illegal aliens. They engage in foreign labor practices that result in tragedies like the 120 people who died in that factory fire. They violate environmental law. If there is a law in the way of them making money - they violate it.
I'm no defender of Wal Mart, but the wrongful death suits are bogus unless Wal Mart broke the law. If the ATF pulled the FFLs from Wal Mart, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I seriously doubt my local Wally World does as much gun business as the locally owned Ace Hardware.
The list of what WalMart says, in contrast to what WalMart does is shocking, appalling and horrific.
yeah
It is not accidental that WalMart has worked to avoid prosecution and being held accountable for those actions through their ALEC corruption where they effectively buy /bribe large numbers of state and federal conservative politicians, and act in secret to draft legislation - including a lot of gun legislation.
I agree, so does Home Depot. So do south Florida sugar farm owners.
So WalMart SAID they would go above and beyond. So what - they DON'T. Your assumptions about prosecution for FFL licenses when it comes to Wallyworld are a bit optimistic. They have a record of NOT obeying the law - and getting away with it for too long, and when finally nailed, of negotiating their way out of it by dumping a lot of money on the problem -- and then making it back by either doing the same thing, or something different.
so are you saying Wal Mart bribes local ATF agents? The Walton family bribe or pressure DoJ, or the Treasury Dept (ATF was under Treasury until 2004)?
It is not an accident or a coincidence that other stores that do not engage in the kind of practices and policies that WalMart does do not have these gun incidents. It is specific to WalMart for a reason.
I think it has more to do with their size, poor security, and locations.Edit history
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Walmart is the largest firearms dealer in US; has roughly one-a-week firearms incidents [View all]
Dog Gone at Penigma
Nov 2012
OP
amazing the gun people seem to be on call 24/7/365 to respond to any anti-gun thread
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#5
You say "Nobody lies but the NRA." Sure they do. Many anti-gunners create false straw-men.
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#76
Your backing of the confederate army/dixie flag on a different thread makes it all quite clear
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#74
I love that NRA soundbyte word "citation". Spent 8 years on a board with NRA folk using it.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#85
link provided. You will see 2 posters names on this thread(its a long one) about the confederacy
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#90
100% amnesty and citizenship for all immediately. Just like President Lincoln did after the war.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#94
You have not yet quoted my "backing of the confederate army/dixie flag on a different thread"....
PavePusher
Nov 2012
#111
the posts made by others are most certainly NOT defending the North and my President Lincoln
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#96
My young age? I sure wish that were true. Youth is wasted on the young as Ralph Kramden said
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#98
No, actually quite the opposite. You have your opinion, I will keep mind.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#102
things have changed. Like the Whigs. Todays Dems are Yesterdays Repubs. (and vice versa).
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#107
And there is a Mayor Mike worshiper available at all times to incoherently jump into threads
ProgressiveProfessor
Nov 2012
#33
Before divvying up the "facts," this one stands out: I was responding to Graham4...
Eleanors38
Nov 2012
#188
What does a bank being robbed in a Wally World have to do with gun sales at that store?
oneshooter
Nov 2012
#3
it is possible for someone to buy a gun at the store, and then use it at the store for a robbery.
gejohnston
Nov 2012
#61
" If you don't want to DIE FASTER carry a weapon to protect yourself I do."
darkangel218
Nov 2012
#7
Real women & men walk away alive from a fight.Guns only inflate a situation.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#12
The people were going to rob themselves? At gunpoint? Sounds like the sheriff
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#14
I just spent 2 weeks without electricity on a dark block and guess what?
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#18
electric came back on, and a few days ago cable/internet, but many still much worse off in NJ/NY
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#27
It was actually about racism and the movie a satire on the old west mentality
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#39
of course it did. Mel Brooks never keeps his movies to one single subject.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#55
Ban young poor parents who can't afford to take their offspring anywhere better
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#47
WalMart was NOT complying with the requirements for proper gun sales
Dog Gone at Penigma
Nov 2012
#172
WalMart has a long history of corrupt practices, and should not be taken at face value
Dog Gone at Penigma
Nov 2012
#183
Interesting goal-post moving. You may want to let the rest of us catch up.....
PavePusher
Nov 2012
#186
You *had* to go and derail a perfectly good rant by doing the math.
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#73
except that most of the firearms accidents, injuries, and killings are not only aout bank robberies
Dog Gone at Penigma
Nov 2012
#134
nothing to do with being robbed more frequently or not; you appear to be deliberately missing it
Dog Gone at Penigma
Nov 2012
#114
Haven't figured out yet that 'anecdote' isn't synonymous with 'data' yet, have you?
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#117
Nothing to do with the fact they have 4,200+ stores in the US, eh?
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#123
Your post is like a frickin Henny Youngman punch line as far as data goes. Except Henny was funny.
DonP
Nov 2012
#119
That's not what it says on the blog. All posts are by "Baldr Odinson"...
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#128
Interesting; half of the OP is undeniable-the other half, unprovable.
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#130
Math is not your friend- this is "Concealed Carry Killers' redux...
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#137
They're the largest retailer in the US, they're going to have more crime than any other chain.
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#145
49 shootings at 4200+ Walmarts. That's about 1 for every 85 Walmarts.
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#155
Do YOU think this guy, whether a real cop or a rent a cop, should be shooting shoplifters?
Dog Gone at Penigma
Dec 2012
#199
they have a long list of law suits that they have settled, admitting guilt - notably the examples I
Dog Gone at Penigma
Dec 2012
#203