Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Walmart is the largest firearms dealer in US; has roughly one-a-week firearms incidents [View all]Dog Gone at Penigma
(433 posts)1. WalMart has an unusually high number of bad gun incidents -- people or property being shot, either deliberately or accidentally, or other related incidents in which guns are a prominent factor. Other comparable big box stores do NOT have this problem, noting remotely like the same frequency or kind of gun related or involved incidents.
2. WalMart has had multiple law suits, including wrongful death law suits, relating to their NOT complying with regulations pertaining to gun sales. This covers the full range from violating local ordinances or agreements that were conditional to their opening and operation, like the Indiana news item I just posted, but also state and federal. They put a lot of money into negotiating their way out of those, but other general department store big box retailers do not have the same frequency of these legal violation problems relating to sales practices of guns and ammo. WalMart has also voluntarily, as part of civil suit settlements, made agreements that they violated. That these were voluntary or non-binding does not change that those settlements occurred in part on the basis of those agreements, or that Walmart was wrong and bad to violate them. It is evidence that they do not operate in good faith or live up to their commitments, if it means they can make a few bucks. That does not reflect well on WalMart as a retailer, or as a good corporate citizen.
3. There seems to me to be a correlation to the kind of gun-related problems and the general scoff-law / lax compliance culture that is specific to WalMart, and is reflected in their OTHER legal compliance failures in which they clearly operate as bad corporate citizens.
So far, I haven't seen anyone here refute that there is a high incidence of events, like accidental gun discharges in men's rooms where concealed or open carriers drop trou and drop their guns at the same time, or have accidental gun discharge while trying to reach for their wallets at the checkout, or any of the other incidents that are the pedestrian equivalent of road rage, etc.
WalMart makes a lot of money off of guns - I can post the references for that, if you like; WalMart has spent a lot of money through ALEC crafting legislation that helps them sell more guns and ammo, and WalMart appears to try to retail to customers without regard or concern for the safety of their employees or other customers, or the legality of their gun ownership or purchase.
If you require me to demonstrate to you that WalMart will cut any corner, including violate laws, to make a buck, I would be happy to oblige, but it is pretty common knowledge. So long as you can not refute that violating laws at all levels is a significant problem with how WalMart operates as a corporation, and you cannot demonstrate that there is NOT a problem with the frequency of gun incidents and accidents at Walmart stores, or that other stores that are similar have similar problems, I have made my point.
No moving goal posts, no tricks, and I have provided documentation for my assertions. I suggest gun guys that you might want to reconsider if retailers like WalMart or the people who are responsible for these accidents and incidents are who you want on 'your side'. Rather, if you wish to claim being BOTH safe and law abiding, then maybe it is time for you also to be critical of the sales practices and scoff-law corporate policies of WalMart regarding guns.
Being critical of the incidents and practices of WalMart, and a specific segment of their customers is not an attack on all gun carriers, or all gun sellers. It is perhaps more instructive that you seem to have a reflexive defensive reaction that appears to be closed minded to such an issue, and that is stronger than your concern for promoting safe, legal guns - both in ownership/purchase, and carrying. Rather you seem to regard someone as an enemy or opposition, even when they are right.