Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Thieves break into Springfield home, steal 500-pound gun safe containing 15 weapons [View all]Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)I used to move heavy shit, including safes, but mostly art objects, many of which weighed considerably more than any gun safe. A 500lb safe is a breeze for 2 guys and one 4 wheeler, or a good 2 wheeler. One guy could usually handle it with a 2 wheeler and a strap. The average 500lb safe measures 5'x3'x2'. Easily carried aboard this $40 handcart.

I'm not speculating on what various court jurisdictions might do. Reckless may be a little too strong. My point is about responsibility and accountability and how some people delude themselves. People will consume all kinds of garbage because they are told that it will improve their lives. Safes don't make things safe just because they are called safes.
Regarding cars, the argument might be valid if they had equivalent usage. Cars kill more people because 100+million are on the road for several hours every day. Accidents happen with all machines. Try imagining how many people would die if 100 million guns were being fired in public for several hours a day. Even if none were aimed at anybody, there would be a bloodbath just from ricochets and other accidents. That's why the analogy is ridiculous. I doubt that 1% of guns are carried in public daily, let alone fired.
I am not baiting. Renters should have the same rights as anyone else. I gave one suggestion as to how to install a safe. There are many more. I have designed and built safe rooms and closets in apartments. Really not that difficult. I'm wondering more about how the burglar(s) new Dunn had the safe and guns.