Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Thieves break into Springfield home, steal 500-pound gun safe containing 15 weapons [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)There is no way he was legally or morally careless. I'm guessing that is how they found out in this case and in Toronto.
Because blaming the victim, or filing frivolous wrongful death lawsuits, when he did not act in a reckless or negligent in any legal or moral standard. To the reasonable person, the legal and moral standard, would assume such a safe is enough. Iverglas had the same opinion of a Toronto machine gun collector that lost his collection to very professional thieves who defeated a bank vault and alarm system. If we were talking about a dim witted meth head getting them out of the sock drawer, your argument would have more merit. Under no system should a crime victim be liable for any act that he had no part in. That is why, as far as I am concerned, SYG vs DTR is less important as civil immunity. I would take Wyoming's DTR with civil immunity when you prove your innocence of murder or manslaughter (justifiable and excusable homicides are not crimes) than California's common law SYG.