Gun Control & RKBA

Starboard Tack

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9. Many countries still support freedom of speech yet have sensible legislation against hate speech.

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:04 PM

Dec 2012

You will find few people in the UK, or any other democracy, who think freedom of speech is restricted by such laws.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom

Even in the US, 1A is restricted, though it prevents legislation to control hate speech.
In the United States, hate speech is protected as a civil right (aside from usual exceptions to free speech, such as defamation, incitement to riot, and fighting words)

IMO, both 1A and 2A need to be revisited.

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Trayvon Martin Shooting Target [View all] Berserker Dec 2012 OP

No words for such poor excuse for humanity nt newfie11 Dec 2012 #1

Old News ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #7

Agree. There are many such things, e.g toilet paper with Bush or Obama's picture on each sheet. jody Dec 2012 #2

Many countries still support freedom of speech yet have sensible legislation against hate speech. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #9

NO,NO,NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kossp Dec 2012 #10

Why? So that we may learn from others, that's why. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #14

I'm not about isolationism, where did you get that? kossp Dec 2012 #15

So when the RW in America gets to define "hate speech" hack89 Dec 2012 #16

Try reading the laws as enacted in other countries Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #19

I don't understand why you think that we should care about other countries laws kossp Dec 2012 #20

Ain't that great? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #29

You are an odd fellow former-republican Dec 2012 #44

Thanks! I take that as a compliment. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #45

" I don't understand why you think that we should care about other countries laws". Jenoch Dec 2012 #31

Why would the tea baggers pass laws identical to those laws? hack89 Dec 2012 #21

If you read any of the laws enacted in other democratic countries you would know Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #30

They are created by a political process involving politicians hack89 Dec 2012 #33

Tell me specifically what you have a problem with Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #38

We don't need them hack89 Dec 2012 #39

It's not about getting insulted. Individuals can be insulted and insuly anyone. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #51

We have laws against threatening behavior hack89 Dec 2012 #54

And if such a Hate Speech law got passed in the US... MicaelS Dec 2012 #53

Bullshit. Doesn't work like that. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #57

By the way. kossp Dec 2012 #23

You always have the right to march. The restrictions are only on hate speech Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #25

Who DEFINES hate speech? Jenoch Dec 2012 #32

The laws do. Read them and get back. Let me know what you think. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #37

You missed my point. Jenoch Dec 2012 #42

Speech doesn't need laws to protect it. It is a fundamental right. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #46

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #48

Take your bigotry somewhere else, like back to the Tea Party where you obviously belong Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #49

There should be no restrictions on any speech kossp Dec 2012 #41

Then you'd better start telling SCOTUS to review the following decisions Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #47

You don't understand free speech very well. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #55

Oh boy! I'm speechless. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #56

I don't really see the benefit. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #12

I disagree with you on room for something else. kossp Dec 2012 #13

Maybe you don't see the benefit. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #27

should we repeal the 17th Amendment gejohnston Dec 2012 #34

In answer to your question. No! Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #36

I'm talking about Parliamentary sovereignty Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #35

How do you propose "1A and 2A need to be revisited" when they are unalienable/inalienable rights? jody Dec 2012 #18

So you think Canada and all of Europe is totalitarian? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #26

The Sedition Act of 1798 is one reason. nt jody Dec 2012 #40

1A & 2A are fine just like they are. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #22

Um...no they don't Riftaxe Dec 2012 #24

Most dedicated gun forums don't allow politics. ileus Dec 2012 #3

Disaster capitalism at its finest. nt rrneck Dec 2012 #4

rrneck how do you get "Disaster capitalism" from some idiot's target? IMO we have enough idiots jody Dec 2012 #5

Capitalizing on human misery for profit. rrneck Dec 2012 #6

I would change it from "Shock Doctrine" to "Punk Doctrine".... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #8

Yes this is some sick shit. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #11

What the Berserker Dec 2012 #17

Is that what you were hoping for? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #28

Words fail me. catbyte Dec 2012 #43

We discussed this back in May(?) when it was news. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #50

Sorry did not Berserker Dec 2012 #52