Gun Control & RKBA

GreenStormCloud

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18. Here they are:

Fri Dec 7, 2012, 05:26 PM

Dec 2012

For Chicago, according to the Chicago Police Dept, murder rate is 16.0 per 100,000, Robbery rate 527.3, aggrevated assault rate 510.4

National rates, FBI: murder 4.8, robbery 119.1 aggrevated assault 252.3

Texas: murder 5.0, robbery 130.6, Aggravated assault 284.4. Texas has lots and lots of guns, shall-issue concealed carry, no AWB, and is only slightly higher than the national average. That increase is likely caused by our long border with Mexico and the problems with illegals and drug smuggling.

http://www.ucrdatatool.gov/Search/Crime/State/RunCrimeStatebyState.cfm

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Why "Chicago" is a Bad Gun-Rights Argument [View all] mikeb302000 Dec 2012 OP

They're always trying to use Chicago in a negative format. BVictor1 Dec 2012 #1

A correction to your post... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #10

k&r +a zillion trillion billion graham4anything Dec 2012 #2

So you agree the most violent places are those with gang problems hack89 Dec 2012 #3

Yes, I've always agreed with that, but mikeb302000 Dec 2012 #32

And of course you have crime stats that show this? hack89 Dec 2012 #36

"I put a good deal of stock into the Google-search-engine method of determining statistics." pipoman Dec 2012 #4

Professor Google. Remmah2 Dec 2012 #6

LOL! So much for the dignity of scholarship. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #11

Holy Cow! pipoman Dec 2012 #21

What else can he do from Italy? rl6214 Dec 2012 #15

Yet he regularly discounts actual stats pipoman Dec 2012 #20

When "actual stats" say there are millions of DGUs a year, mikeb302000 Dec 2012 #33

Because you and your "Google-search-engine method of determining statistics" pipoman Dec 2012 #35

Take a look at El Paso, TX GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #5

"Take a look at El Paso, TX" rl6214 Dec 2012 #16

Denying Oneka Dec 2012 #7

Automatic Rec for logic so twisted that it boggles the mind slackmaster Dec 2012 #8

Chicago, Politicians and Gun Control Remmah2 Dec 2012 #9

Gun control "working as it should?" For thugs. And elites. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #12

Exactly sarisataka Dec 2012 #22

The gangs in Chicago deal drugs and can easily smuggle firearms ... spin Dec 2012 #13

Google-perception aside, does Chicago actually have a significantly lower rate petronius Dec 2012 #14

Good question. Straw Man Dec 2012 #17

Here they are: GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #18

I think we need something more specific than that, to address the OP's hypothesis petronius Dec 2012 #24

Thanks for the clarification. That can be dealt with. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #25

Compare Chicago to Houston, the nearest city in size; it's not a bit flattering to Chi-town: friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #28

Well, I don't know the view from a cafe in Rome, but living here is another matter DonP Dec 2012 #19

I bookmarked this thread for many reasons, your post included. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #26

Another was *this* example of industrial-strength stupidity from the OP: friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #27

Might want to include Oneka Dec 2012 #31

Go ashead mikeb302000 Dec 2012 #34

just shootings or gejohnston Dec 2012 #39

Data like that is essential to your argument, which is why I asked you the question petronius Dec 2012 #40

This thread is a logic fail of epic proportions. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #23

yep, gun control is working perfectly in Chicago-for the criminals and the government. trouble.smith Dec 2012 #29

So where is a good example of a gun control argument? guardian Dec 2012 #30

Boy this takes the cake. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #37

Google search engine stats? aikoaiko Dec 2012 #38