Gun Control & RKBA

jbgood1977

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112. One is too many.

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:46 AM

Dec 2012

It ranks right up there with the sacrifice of an innocent life to save other lives. What is the acceptable ratio? There is NO acceptable ratio. None at all.

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Licensing and registering all new handguns, regardless of make or model. [View all] Decoy of Fenris Dec 2012 OP

Excellent point, every criminal would immediately go to the nearest LEO station and register. jody Dec 2012 #1

I believe you've misread me, Jody. Decoy of Fenris Dec 2012 #3

No I didn't misread you because you did not guarantee that a list of registered firearms would not jody Dec 2012 #4

Jesus Christ. Where the hell did that come from? Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #30

there is no car prohibiton lobby, gejohnston Dec 2012 #36

There most certainly is an anti-car lobby. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #40

Only if they are going to be used on public roads. Callisto32 Dec 2012 #115

You really do need to study the history of the right to keep and bear arms and other unalienable jody Dec 2012 #37

The Constitution of the United States. Gee, if only I studied that in school. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #39

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan jody Dec 2012 #48

what is the history of totalitarianism in the US? Here shadowrider Dec 2012 #64

ONLY if a car is driven on public roads does it have t be registered. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #38

Okay. I agree. If anyone is ever caught with an unregistered firearm in a public place -- busted. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #41

It is the person, not the gun who is licensed. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #45

Ok. Let's change one word in my post: Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #49

As long as the permiting process is shall-issue. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #81

This is generally the way it is today in most places. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #59

It's been done, and it's being tried. PavePusher Dec 2012 #62

But not vehicles used on private property. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #97

I missed this part: "That's already happened in this country as discussed before on this forum." WTF Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #44

You really need to visit this forum often and learn about RKBA. nt jody Dec 2012 #47

Oh, no.I need to never visit this forum. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #50

Oh. PavePusher Dec 2012 #61

The only one freaking out with no facts and no basis around here, is you. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #89

Ignorant of History/Doomed to repeat it. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #88

You seem to be taking Jenoch Dec 2012 #21

My ideas come from those who fought for inalienable/unalienable rights in the beginning, 1600s. nt jody Dec 2012 #33

There actually is someone Jenoch Dec 2012 #75

This ranks as one of the most twisted responses I have read on this board. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #42

Law abiding citizens have a right to keep and bear arms for self defense. LEO have a privilege jody Dec 2012 #46

" natural, inherent unalienable/inalienable 'rights'". What is natural about firearms? Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #51

You assert "rights can be revoked" and earlier "We have the same level of knowledge about the jody Dec 2012 #52

I did not bring it up. Jenoch Dec 2012 #74

it would provide jobs gejohnston Dec 2012 #2

Even if the expected reduction in firearms related crime was %100... -..__... Dec 2012 #5

What would registration accomplish? GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #6

How many guns were forcibly confiscated in CA & NY? safeinOhio Dec 2012 #23

the goal of annual car registration gejohnston Dec 2012 #34

California, SKS rifles. PavePusher Dec 2012 #63

All I'm asking safeinOhio Dec 2012 #68

Ah, you've moved the goal -posts. PavePusher Dec 2012 #70

As I recall, safeinOhio Dec 2012 #76

You recall wrong. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #91

"advised" safeinOhio Dec 2012 #92

Forcibly is your bar? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #93

If that is what the voters in Cali want, safeinOhio Dec 2012 #94

I am personally OK with registration AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #95

The voters in Cali wanted Proposition 8. Do you respect that? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #96

I don't care how impractical you think it may be. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #100

Note, I said, and have always said, registration of safeinOhio Dec 2012 #104

The problem is... Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #105

I don't think it undermines it at all. safeinOhio Dec 2012 #106

Sure, but giving them a list of who can fight back does, too. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #107

"universal firearm licensing"? safeinOhio Dec 2012 #108

Nope. That is why it is opt-out. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #110

And of course this list would be made available on the net. oneshooter Dec 2012 #109

All of this can be accomplished while still preserving anonymity. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #99

In other words, you'd need a permit to own any new pistol derby378 Dec 2012 #7

I need to register to vote. safeinOhio Dec 2012 #24

Depends on if we're talking registering as an owner, or sir pball Dec 2012 #77

I am also voluntarily registered as safeinOhio Dec 2012 #78

Registration and permission are two totally different things derby378 Dec 2012 #102

No one says you have to buy a handgun. safeinOhio Dec 2012 #103

No registration of firearms AT ALL! jbgood1977 Dec 2012 #8

Registration of firearms leads to confiscation Trunk Monkey Dec 2012 #13

Yes jbgood1977 Dec 2012 #15

How many guns were forcibly confiscated in CA & NY? safeinOhio Dec 2012 #25

how massive does it have to be? gejohnston Dec 2012 #35

Like I said, no ones guns were taken away using safeinOhio Dec 2012 #57

Who said anything about WND? gejohnston Dec 2012 #83

Wrong- SKS rifles, in California. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #84

One is too many. jbgood1977 Dec 2012 #112

So, one murder rampage with safeinOhio Dec 2012 #114

I don't see what substantial benefit there is to registration. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #9

No registration, no way other than NFA. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #10

Good to hear from you. discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #17

You forgot guns that have been stolen... rDigital Dec 2012 #18

Oh yeah... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #19

Are all manufacturer's serial numbers unique? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #22

I guess... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #43

Unless you have data that suggests registration would have the effect you want... PavePusher Dec 2012 #11

Switzerland. safeinOhio Dec 2012 #26

But do you have evidence that this is a result of their registration process... PavePusher Dec 2012 #60

You asked for evidence that "suggest". safeinOhio Dec 2012 #65

You haven't demonstrated any link between the registration and the low crime rate. PavePusher Dec 2012 #66

Yes I did. safeinOhio Dec 2012 #69

No, you really didn't. PavePusher Dec 2012 #71

No, you didn't. Clames Dec 2012 #72

according to this, gejohnston Dec 2012 #85

So if I build a flint or percussion pistol, oneshooter Dec 2012 #12

Pretty easy to include safeinOhio Dec 2012 #27

Want to give odds that they will? oneshooter Dec 2012 #58

Sure, safeinOhio Dec 2012 #67

No. Just no. beevul Dec 2012 #14

Federal registration will not happen anytime soon. ... spin Dec 2012 #16

How do they get away with safeinOhio Dec 2012 #28

I believe full auto weapons have to be registered in Florida. ... spin Dec 2012 #79

I'd be fine with such a thing. Even if it applied to all guns. Kaleva Dec 2012 #20

I'm with you, except safeinOhio Dec 2012 #29

Except that allowes the ownership of EVIL ASSAULT RIFLES oneshooter Dec 2012 #53

Easy. safeinOhio Dec 2012 #55

What about the 50 million gun owners who are not NRA members? hack89 Dec 2012 #90

Agreed. n/t Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #32

Excellent idea. Mandatory registration. Buzz Clik Dec 2012 #31

You got it. safeinOhio Dec 2012 #56

Only argument for it is ignorance... Clames Dec 2012 #73

But what's the argument FOR it? Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #86

Unless you live in california and tried to register an AR-15 between the dates of AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #87

Want we should pay yearly taxes on them, too? like cars and real estate. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #54

It would not reduce firearm crime, and would make it Glassunion Dec 2012 #80

I don't think registering firearms will affect crime rates. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #82

The issue as I see it. Glassunion Dec 2012 #101

No. HALO141 Dec 2012 #111

For someone that was just going to be "gone until next morning" jbgood1977 Dec 2012 #113