Gun Control & RKBA

jody

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8. Congress has all the authority it needs for the militia in Article I, Section 8, clauses 15 & 16.

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 08:26 PM

Dec 2012

The Second Admenment is about defense of self and property as PA (1776) and VT (1777) said in their constitutions.

A DECLARATION OF THE RIGHTS OF THE INHABITANTS OF THE COMMONWEALTH OR STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA 28 Sept. 1776
"That all men are born equally free and independent, and have certain natural, inherent and inalienable rights, amongst which are, the enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety."
And
"That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power."

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Okay, I'm Sure i'll Get Flamed but [View all] dballance Dec 2012 OP

K&R MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #1

Exactly right. Gold Rush Dec 2012 #2

Our military doesn't use lead much any more...they prefer depleted Uranium. Nobody seems to care pop topcan Dec 2012 #4

SAFE BULLETS VERSUS KILL BULLETS ROBROX Dec 2012 #16

I realize you meant to be snarky but gejohnston Dec 2012 #20

You do realize the D.U. slugs pollute for 10ks of years right? Small detail. Katashi_itto Dec 2012 #25

Times change muse03 Dec 2012 #3

and had to ride horses from town to town. libdem4life Dec 2012 #5

I wouldn't have a problem with the 1st Amendment if we still had quill pens... pop topcan Dec 2012 #6

Yeah, because speaking your mind thucythucy Dec 2012 #7

How do you feel about hate speech inciting others to violence and murder? Surely you don't think pop topcan Dec 2012 #14

How do you feel about 2nd amendment access allowing violence and murder? Surely you don't think Gold Rush Dec 2012 #15

Sure, hate speech exists and it's a problem thucythucy Dec 2012 #19

How exactly is your comment on topic or relevant? dballance Dec 2012 #9

It is a precisely equivalent analogy. It's the old fuss over whose ox is being gored. pop topcan Dec 2012 #13

Sorry, NO. Quill Pens Have Nothing to do w/ Free Speech dballance Dec 2012 #40

Bork is wrong again gejohnston Dec 2012 #41

So what is your problem with it? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #21

Well said! nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2012 #38

Congress has all the authority it needs for the militia in Article I, Section 8, clauses 15 & 16. jody Dec 2012 #8

Theoretical and Applied always a huge variance in the two. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #10

If only Paul Revere had email or a cell phone. libdem4life Dec 2012 #11

AFAIK, gejohnston Dec 2012 #12

What other nations have seemingly monthly/weekly Gold Rush Dec 2012 #17

key word is seemingly gejohnston Dec 2012 #22

"the kids are just as dead" Gold Rush Dec 2012 #26

two things, gejohnston Dec 2012 #28

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #29

Skinner can tell me himself gejohnston Dec 2012 #33

Could you please tell me what the alphabet soup you refer to? Should I be insulted? I'm a newbie. libdem4life Dec 2012 #18

as far as I know gejohnston Dec 2012 #23

Naw, my new. Thanks. libdem4life Dec 2012 #30

AFAIK = As Far As I Know Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #24

And you, GMAB. Give me a break. libdem4life Dec 2012 #31

Sorry! Didn't mean to be rude, but nice response. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #32

Thanks. I'm an old canine learning new tricks. :) libdem4life Dec 2012 #34

Me too. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #35

That is one interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, of which there are many randr Dec 2012 #27

Our all mighty military has faced a rocky road in Iraq and Afghanistan. spin Dec 2012 #42

You don't have to actually kill or destroy much to prevail. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #43

If it "became" twisted, it was extremely early on. David__77 Dec 2012 #36

Yes, I agree Tumbulu Dec 2012 #37

It was a lot of things. England put right to bear arms in its Bill of Rights a century earlier. eallen Dec 2012 #39

Small Arms vs. Police and Military Forces ralfy Dec 2012 #44