Gun Control & RKBA

AllyCat

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119. I'm sure they are on the Hill.

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Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:02 PM

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Today I have re-thought my position on the second amendment. [View all] Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 OP

Thank you. You are more human than the NRAbots. lastlib Dec 2012 #1

I changed my mind after Columbine. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #2

Anyone with a conscience must ask themselves: What are reasonable restrictions on liberty? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #3

Liberty? fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #87

Yeah, liberty. As in the Second Amendment. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #112

Same Question fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #114

Thank you for sharing. Glassunion Dec 2012 #4

Me too. earthside Dec 2012 #5

It's the phenomenon of the 'mucker'-or worse, the Breiviks and McVeighs friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #6

I get where you are coming from gejohnston Dec 2012 #9

That seems like a pretty simplistic question WestCoastLib Dec 2012 #10

mostly simply pointing out that gejohnston Dec 2012 #14

It isn't unique to the US, but it happens more here than anywhere else in the world. AllyCat Dec 2012 #106

we have more people gejohnston Dec 2012 #107

I'm sure they are on the Hill. AllyCat Dec 2012 #119

It doesnt do any good to have strick laws in one state if the others are lax. Vietnameravet Dec 2012 #13

kind of gejohnston Dec 2012 #15

How about going to a gun show,..where its easy to buy anything..thanks to the NRA Vietnameravet Dec 2012 #60

still a federal crime, and most sellers are FFLs gejohnston Dec 2012 #67

Well how come I see reports on TV Vietnameravet Dec 2012 #73

MAIG video editing=James O' Keefe video editing gejohnston Dec 2012 #75

Can't they buy a gun right then and there at the show? Auntie Bush Dec 2012 #85

it works the same as a store gejohnston Dec 2012 #86

Thanks for all that information. I feel better now. Auntie Bush Dec 2012 #99

I have bought two firearms from gun shows and both times I had to fill out a 4473... Clames Dec 2012 #88

That's good to hear...didn't know that. Auntie Bush Dec 2012 #98

At big shows, LEOs pick up a felon or two using standard Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #120

Go to just about any gun show in Ohio. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #104

I'm sure you like to believe that. Clames Dec 2012 #108

I'm sure you've been to every gun show there is. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #125

funny, gejohnston Dec 2012 #110

Guess you don't live in Ohio as I do, nor go to gun shows in Ohio, as I do. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #124

no I haven't but gejohnston Dec 2012 #126

Violates the Commerce clause of the Constitution. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #80

Guns were all registered to his mother. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #68

so I just found out gejohnston Dec 2012 #72

Okay tell me what restrictions has the NRA ever been willing to accept on firearms Vietnameravet Dec 2012 #74

They supported parts of the Gun Control Act, gejohnston Dec 2012 #77

If you want to hold a demonstration, you have to get a permit. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #24

Guns kill when used "properly" pscot Dec 2012 #47

Precisely! Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #70

+1 - exactly right! DrDan Dec 2012 #101

I could actually get onboard with basic competency licensing to own and to carry guns. But I don't TPaine7 Dec 2012 #62

Doesn't matter. They were available to him. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #71

No, reports are now saying that he had a mental issue. His mother should have known that and taken TPaine7 Dec 2012 #76

Good point! Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #78

She's dead, so I don't suggest a scolding. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #79

How well is that law working? Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #81

It was a recommendation TPaine7 Dec 2012 #82

She's dead Lordquinton Dec 2012 #111

There's nothing that can be done to rectify past tragedies, we can only affect the future nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #117

he would have had access regardless nt YllwFvr Dec 2012 #100

Yes!!! Here here!!!!! Tumbulu Dec 2012 #115

Not sure how you weed out violence in video games and movies. tblue Dec 2012 #23

The only reason I own a gun riqster Dec 2012 #7

Me too. donco Dec 2012 #8

Thanks for your thoughtful post.. and the others that are rethinking their positions Vietnameravet Dec 2012 #11

Total bans only work in police states- look at Mexico, or Jamaica friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #16

Not a Proponent BUT fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #21

Meth and heroin kill the user pscot Dec 2012 #48

Australia is not a police state. marions ghost Dec 2012 #53

Australia gun laws are not as strict as Mexico, Jamacia, or even gejohnston Dec 2012 #55

Australia's gun laws = effective by these statistics: marions ghost Dec 2012 #61

check the murder rate gejohnston Dec 2012 #69

And if Australia banned green-painted cars, then... krispos42 Dec 2012 #96

So are you suggesting we legalize those drugs? Vietnameravet Dec 2012 #59

IMO, should have been done years ago. When you Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #121

Gosh fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #89

yours is a human reaction and a humane one CreekDog Dec 2012 #12

And your post makes me rethink my opinion of you. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #17

Thank You for Your Humanity fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #18

Good for you. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #19

Your thoughtful post and your honor help elevate our hearts this very sad day. colorado_ufo Dec 2012 #20

To all gun-nuts: You've HAD your say. You've HAD YOUR WAY! And THIS is what results. calimary Dec 2012 #22

only if they violate the law gejohnston Dec 2012 #26

When was the last time someone clubbed 20 kids to death pscot Dec 2012 #51

good question, but I'm sure the answer is not what either of us thinks. gejohnston Dec 2012 #58

The problem is much more pervasive than gun show parking lots. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #28

I cant even speak right now... Pachamama Dec 2012 #33

The job of the police in the UK is to protect the people, oldbanjo Dec 2012 #41

Nice thoughts Flatpicker Dec 2012 #25

... meegbear Dec 2012 #27

I don't know why but your post made me cry Politicub Dec 2012 #29

Count me in too. 4_TN_TITANS Dec 2012 #30

The biggest problem is the people that won't even consider doing what you say Gman Dec 2012 #31

I think guns and ammo need to be seriously restricted. denverbill Dec 2012 #32

I don't see that as workable. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #34

Well my other suggestion would be single-shot weapons only. No clips, no pump shotguns. denverbill Dec 2012 #45

they had repeaters too gejohnston Dec 2012 #46

I don't really have a problem having more restrictive laws than Canada. denverbill Dec 2012 #56

What are you going to do about Jenoch Dec 2012 #57

That would take an amendment of the constitution to revoke the 2nd amendment cstanleytech Dec 2012 #35

Thank you Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #36

I used to be a hot dog vendor DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #37

Good for you wryter2000 Dec 2012 #38

Bless you Hekate Dec 2012 #39

I with you. blackspade Dec 2012 #40

A heartfelt post. I don't have all the answers, either; but surely there is a way people of good apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #42

It's difficult to believe someone even sold this guy a gun marshall Dec 2012 #43

I'm with you today, brother. Time for very strong, historic action. Flatulo Dec 2012 #44

Getting rid of your guns won't likely help Meandering1 Dec 2012 #49

New 2nd amendment rules : blkbear Dec 2012 #50

It is good to see a gun owner marions ghost Dec 2012 #52

Either you get it or you don't. Old and In the Way Dec 2012 #54

I'm doing some serious thinking too Recursion Dec 2012 #63

I understand. Solutions may not be pleasant, but they should at least work. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #64

I understand. I'm open to ideas on how to keep unstable You Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #65

Thank You For Reflecting On This! ellisonz Dec 2012 #66

I don't know that it's so much an issue of weeding out lunatics Kennah Dec 2012 #83

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BAN THEM Spryguy Dec 2012 #90

now I know how a Muslim feels reading Free Republic gejohnston Dec 2012 #91

Be Careful fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #92

Yup! Spryguy Dec 2012 #93

that include at least two gejohnston Dec 2012 #95

and they are among the worst. gejohnston Dec 2012 #94

Poor thing. morningfog Dec 2012 #133

Bless your heart. gejohnston Dec 2012 #135

You're going to volunteer for the confiscation squads, I take it? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #113

Not a bit of it. He'll just rely on people with guns to get it done. N/T beevul Dec 2012 #118

You can't un-invent gun. Here a guy shows how to make a sub-machine gun without sophisticated tools Howzit Dec 2012 #116

Repeal them all! majake Dec 2012 #122

Only when it applies to death spewer owners and Republicans :) Spryguy Dec 2012 #132

This mass shooting horrifies me too aikoaiko Dec 2012 #97

How about this Shivering Jemmy Dec 2012 #102

I'm fine with that given some due process aikoaiko Dec 2012 #103

I don't agree with this specific proposal bossy22 Dec 2012 #109

you are now a gun owner and not a gun nut Skittles Dec 2012 #105

Darrell Scott's daughter was the first killed at Columbine - His call for action can be seen here: Howzit Dec 2012 #123

Repeal the Second Amendment Now. Dems to Win Dec 2012 #127

You are a good person for doing this CountAllVotes Dec 2012 #128

You seem like a good person, but I think that you're not looking at this correctly ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #129

Nancy Lanza didn't plan on her guns being used to murder 20 kindergartners, but they were. Dems to Win Dec 2012 #130

What if I melt them down... ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #131

How many whose guns were used in mass shooting like this didn't morningfog Dec 2012 #134

I don't know ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #136